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on this theme, George Washingtons Irish 2000 guineas run, there was no need but they did it anyway.
to be fair to the guy he tipped up purple moon today, I don’t follow the guy but I will read his columns if only for a diffrent perspective. more often than not i disagree entirely but thats alowed. my opinions are not based on those of others but I like to hear them, thats why most of you come on here i suspect.
insomniac Id definitly be interested in some of them.Im young and fairly new to racing but like to read whatever I can get my hands on. not sure if the pm thing is working but i’d love to sought something out.
My thoughts exactly, surely they don’t think they are fooling anyone in buying a derby winning son of montjeu to breed. smacks of "we wont buy coolmore yearlings we’ll just breed their lines and pretend theyre ours" to me. I think they recognise theyve made an error but wont admit it.
Steve,
I to have had to curtail my betting somewhat in the last 12 months though for different reasons. Having become a student in spetember my cash flow is now significantly less than when I was working full time.
Ive always thought of betting as like spending money on anything else such as going out for dinner, that is to say when I bet my mindset is that the money is gone and not that I will be getting any back. I find this way I am not tempted to chase losses and never end up betting beyond my means.
With that now being a significantly lower sum it means I’ve had to pick and choose when to bet and yet I still love to watch racing, the big meetings in particular.
Also with regard to your point about being able to see the horses, I personally find this invaluable. While my record betting at home is often patchy at best, though with some purple patches I have never lost a significant sum while at the track and almost always turn at least a small profit on days at the races.
Are you suggesting he is there merely as a pacemaker Gareth.
Outrageous! And yes I think you might just be right, I still don’t think Scorpion was there just for that purpose though!
Fair enough, my impression was that he’d gone because he had got first run and Aqaleem was unlucky not to get a run until coming into the final furlong as if he had yellowstone may not have been able to have ‘gone’.
Having said that I agree he looks like he wants further and I think he should run well in the Leger provided he gets there OK.
Although he didnt ultimately manage to overhaul the winner he made up some of the deficit and wasnt losing anything at the finish. Given he lost a neck and yellowstone got first run on him by some way I dont think you can say he certainly wouldnt have won granted a run sooner.
couldnt agree more, I thought the fact Yellowstone got first run was far more important than any extra speed yellowstone might have. he didnt exactly bolt clear and aqaleem had to wait a long time to get a run.
I find myself agreeing with you on a number of points Aragorn. I do think this is a better renewal than last year and also that Excellent Art could prove to be more than useful.
I have also noticed that a lot of people seem to be much happier putting down current horses rather than just assessing them on their relative merits. Ok so Dylan Thomas may not be the best King George winner. But he is a proper group 1 horse and demolished what was put up against him. So he won’t be rated as another Mill Reef or even a Montjeu, why not just enjoy what is happening now.
Perhaps like you say it is the weather.
OK yes now I do feel foolish.
However that aside I still think it is an unambitious book for such a competitive race. But like I said thats not their job, I’m just whinging, apologies.
it may be only 33% overround but if there wasnt a 100/1 outsider then what? and its still antepost at the minute. they may be intended runners but if they pull out you wont see that money again.
but hey the bookies are there to make money, I know they struggle to do so so I’ll lay off
Yeah I agree with that. I doubt I will have a bet in the race as while I am leaning on Mandesha it is not strong enough for me to take 9-4. I’d have thought given the competitive nature of the race they would be better served pushing the prices out a little, theres such compelling arguments for so many horses.
It may just be me but that doesnt mean they should all be so skinny, their chance of winning is lessened by the presence of other top class horses.
Is that a symptom of the current environment? Any good horse has to be short regardless of what it’s up against?
The thing is gareth it doesnt matter what theyve won if there not good enough, either at the trip or in general, to be competitive. like everything except dylan thomas in the race on saturday turned out to be.
Fair enough Flash to each their own.
I wasnt trying to say anything is ever a certainty. I take the view that there are value 6/4 shots because they should be shorter and those that arent. Its the same principle as value betting at bigger odds from where im sat. I do understand the prohibitive odds thing though.
Ah well, it wouldnt be half as interesting if we all thought the same!
While I’d agree that sending the horses elsewhere may have better results for the Sheiks horses that really wouldnt help him much. The point of Godolphin is that it is a living advert for sport in Dubai through being successful. Like Ballydoyle is a living advert for Coolmore stud.
If the horses were elsewhere they might win more but the commercial point of it would be lost.It is therfore more important if they are to survive they go back to their roots and have less horses that are given every possible chance.
And, as the article points out start buying yearlings out of coolmore horses. You only have to look at the stallion tables to realise if you don’t your not going to win as much as someone who does.
