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Regardless wether Scorpion was doing his best, a fully fledged Dylan Thomas would have him breakfast anyday, so anyone that backed Scorpion deserved to do their dough. Couldn’t belive that Dylan Thomas was odds against so I lumped on at 11/8 just missed 6/4.
How good is "Manduro"
Dylan Thomas was too short for me I don’t play at those sort of prices so I didn’t have a bet but I thought he would have to get injured mid race to lose to that standard of opposition.
People take a view though those that backed Scorpion were perfectly entitled to do so.
Manduro is a very good horse but probably will be a bit better over ten furlongs as opposed to twelve. Dylan Thomas looks equally as good at either trip.
Madman why did you think it necessary to start a new thread with this post?
Surely it would have fitted nicely into the "pacemaker" thread!
Madman why did you think it necessary to start a new thread with this post?
Surely it would have fitted nicely into the "pacemaker" thread!
Actually seabird thats what I meant to do, hit the wrong button
I have said it before on here that I don’t think Scorpion will win another race, the hoss is a head case.
Maybe people like me who backed him at 12-1 felt he represented value, given that Dylan Thomas may not have run to his best on testing ground? Its easy to aftertime why not post in the lays and selections so we can see how you measure up if your that confident about what people should be backing?
12-1 last weekend, but Madman Marx seems to be suggesting you would be mad to back Scorpion at any price.
If Scorpion is campaigned correctly, he will win more races this year. Although he’s highly strung, it doesn;t actually prevent him showing his best on the track, see the Coronation Cup for that. Races like the Lonsdale and Irish Leger should be on his agenda for later in the year imo.
12-1 last weekend, but Madman Marx seems to be suggesting you would be mad to back Scorpion at any price.
Actually quiet like "MADMAN MARX"
Dylan Thomas was too short for me I don’t play at those sort of prices so I didn’t have a bet but I thought he would have to get injured mid race to lose to that standard of opposition.
I’ve never understood why there still exists a stigma against backing favourites, as if doing so is an admittance of a lack of imagination, a reason for shame; its a mindset which is understandable within Lucky 15 punters dreaming of the big one but not for serious-minded backers… if Dylan Thomas would have to get injured mid race to lose, surely 6/4 was excellent value? … each to his own, I suppose.
I thought Dylan Thomas would win because I’ve always thought he’s a 12f horse. Ever since he beat Ouija Board over 10f, I thought he didn’t look comfortable over the distance – after all, Ouija Board cruised by him and would have won easily but for an overconfident ride – and since then he’s won a few poor races over the trip, and been beaten by Notnowcato and Manduro in disappointing circumstances (outbattled by Notnowcato, and should have got closer to Manduro). I’m surprised nobody mentioned in all of the previews that he was returning to the trip of his greatest performance for the first time since…
Dylan Thomas was too short for me I don’t play at those sort of prices so I didn’t have a bet but I thought he would have to get injured mid race to lose to that standard of opposition.
I’ve never understood why there still exists a stigma against backing favourites, as if doing so is an admittance of a lack of imagination, a reason for shame; its a mindset which is understandable within Lucky 15 punters dreaming of the big one but not for serious-minded backers… if Dylan Thomas would have to get injured mid race to lose, surely 6/4 was excellent value? … each to his own, I suppose.
I thought Dylan Thomas would win because I’ve always thought he’s a 12f horse. Ever since he beat Ouija Board over 10f, I thought he didn’t look comfortable over the distance – after all, Ouija Board cruised by him and would have won easily but for an overconfident ride – and since then he’s won a few poor races over the trip, and been beaten by Notnowcato and Manduro in disappointing circumstances (outbattled by Notnowcato, and should have got closer to Manduro). I’m surprised nobody mentioned in all of the previews that he was returning to the trip of his greatest performance for the first time since…
Will they meet at Leopardstown ? both seem to be fairly ok regards trip,???
Dylan Thomas was too short for me I don’t play at those sort of prices so I didn’t have a bet but I thought he would have to get injured mid race to lose to that standard of opposition.
I’ve never understood why there still exists a stigma against backing favourites, as if doing so is an admittance of a lack of imagination, a reason for shame; its a mindset which is understandable within Lucky 15 punters dreaming of the big one but not for serious-minded backers… if Dylan Thomas would have to get injured mid race to lose, surely 6/4 was excellent value? … each to his own, I suppose.
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Its nothing to do with immagination its to do with balancing your books and making the profit you want to make at the end of your betting year. 6/4 shots and the like are a shortcut to the workhouse they are too much of a liability. If you are going to bet at that price you have to bet big in relation to your average stake and one defeat can do more damage than is good for you.
While many 6/4 shots aren’t worth the price some are more than value for it. Had it not been for the big hoodoo in midweek about the ground being to soft DT would have been odds on almost certainly. Therefore having seen the first on saturday and satisfied the ground was quick enough I thought the odds were a gift.
Undoubtedly there are some 6/4 shots (more than arent in all probability) which are a quick way to lose money, some though are not. Take Kauto Star in the GC for example, it was basically take short odds that he manages to stand up.
While many 6/4 shots aren’t worth the price some are more than value for it. Had it not been for the big hoodoo in midweek about the ground being to soft DT would have been odds on almost certainly. Therefore having seen the first on saturday and satisfied the ground was quick enough I thought the odds were a gift.
Undoubtedly there are some 6/4 shots (more than arent in all probability) which are a quick way to lose money, some though are not. Take Kauto Star in the GC for example, it was basically take short odds that he manages to stand up.
Its easy to say after the event though. Mighty Man at Punchestown looked about as big a cert as you can get, he injured himself during the race and got beat. Unlucky, sure but try moaning about your bad luck to a bookmaker he’s not likely to refund your money.
To me backing any horse at less than 2/1 just isn’t worth the risk regardless of how big a certainty they appear to be. Others may have a different view, good luck to them but its not for me.
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