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Anyone else read this?
"no one with a brain who wants a bet is going to go to the track"
Charming…
My retort would be that ..no one with a life would spend their day in front of a laptop in a darkened room when its sunny outside, trying to get an extra tenth of a point for his fiver each way
He also talks some rubbish too. July cup day has plenty of room compared with fridays at Newmarket.Maybe so, but article is supposed to be about racegoing being on its knees. Well picked wrong example there. July meeting has far bigger crowds than a few years ago
The truth is that you are both right, and the shrewdies find the perfect blend between the two!
Now if everyone stopped going to the track, Mr Segal, the racecourses would soon close down, in short racing would cease to exist.
A really stupid statement for a guy of his reputation
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Now if everyone stopped going to the track, Mr Segal, the racecourses would soon close down,
It never made a difference at Kempton!
This country is falling down around our ears, and we’re forced to endure the mindless babbling of a failing tipster whilst pursuing one of the few pleasures these shores still have to offer.
His distinct lack of tipping prowess is one thing, and his selection of horses (and subsequent attempts at justification) on the strength of…well…feck all as far as I can see, quite another, but he’s turning into Mark Winstanley: a complete and utter waste of time.
I though it was the best article he’s written for some time.
Of course that may have been down to the absence of any tips…
This country is falling down around our ears, and we’re forced to endure the mindless babbling of a failing tipster
No you’re not. You don’t have to read it. You can also either skip straight past it or refuse to buy either of the papers he writes for.
What i disliked was the sniffy attitude towards those that might still think that going racing is worthwhile. Clearly, beacuse we arent betting to the limits of our endurance and fretting over small fractions, we are simply mugs
But it makes me laugh when he cites cost of entry as a negative factor. Surely big hitters are not going to worry about whther its £20 this year rather than £18 last? I suppose he views the £35 ( i looked it up) he pays to see Reading play Sunderland next year as great value
Clivex
Are you not throwing stones from inside your glass house? Describing racegoers at York as ‘Ian Rush and David Batty lookalikes’ looks pretty ‘sniffy’ to me.
The truth being that most people who go racing aren’t bothered about betting seriously .. it could be said that only mugs bet at SP though, whatever the stakes.
The truth being that most people who go racing aren’t bothered about betting seriously
Whatever “seriously” means
Same could be said about “most people” that follow racing. I would suggest that at most meetings theres a higher % of those that know the sport and follow the form intelligently than in the average betting shop or quite probably, amongst the the billynomates, chained to PC addicts around the country
Mugs bet with bookmakers and the tote.
Yellowstone was available at 9/2 on Tuesday morning with Stan James but was only 4/1 on Betfair. It then shortened to 7/2 with Betfair but was still 4/1 with Stan James. I know which I prefer there.
I admit that this example is rare but it’s crazy to limit yourself to the exchanges only. The specials available with some bookies are good value too, such as guaranteed prices, extra places, money back if second etc.
Also the ante-post odds available on Betfair are often worse than those available with the high street bookmakers.
‘mugs’ … define …
anybody who pays £1.50 for a big smudgy newspaper every day that promotes prats like segal when you can get all that is in the paper and a hundred times more on the web for nothing
racegoers for paying the prices we do for a cup of tea, toasted sandwich or burger at the course let alone the entrance fee/parking
racegoers for spending the time and money going to the course when you can sit in the warm at home with whatever comforts you want and watch/punt on all the races
and let’s generalise further by saying all punters are mugs as we know that more than 9/10 lose overall, regardless of what they claim
so ‘mugs’ covers all punters, all racegoers and anyone that buys the RP
sorted
(personally, i would not generalise quite so much and just restrict ‘mugs’ to those who buy the RP every day and follow ‘pricedumb’)
Would the panel believe that it is possible to have an interest in horse-racing without having a bet?.
I go racing much more often now than I ever have and sometimes I don’t have a bet.
Not sure about the statement that a bigger percentage of racegoers are more interested in racing than the average betting-shop punter.
A lot of people on the course appear to be there just for the booze and of course you have the corporate dos where a great number of them never leave the marquee.
There’s a big advantage in going racing and that’s the opportunity to watch the horses before the race.
IMO, the combination of that advantage (if you know what to look for) plus the competition in the betting ring is a match for betfair.
(though if I had a PDA, I could combine the 2)
Would the panel believe that it is possible to have an interest in horse-racing without having a bet?.
Aside from Cheltenham where I did my knackers, I doubt I’ve bet on more than 20 races over the last 12 months.
Because I don’t have time to follow all the form, I’ve kept my betting to certain types of flat race and only bet when value jumps out at me (which happens less because I’m not engrossed in the form).
However, I still watch a lot of racing and get excited about seeing the best horses take each other on.
Steve
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