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Pub Landlord says “anyone who comes into pubs like mine and pay the prices we charge is a mug when you can do it much more comfortably and cheaper at home”
Betting Shop Manager says “of course my customers are mugs, betting on fixed FOBTs, every dog race, cartoon race, lotteries and i don’t even show all the pictures”
The examples of the pub landlord and the bookie just back up the point I’m making.
They’re going to say what’s in the best interests of their business to say.
Now, do you really want racing journalists (in particular betting advisors) to spin whatever story is going to put the most money into the racing industry?
Maybe you’d be happier if he was writing “banded racing is great for punters… 100% straight .. and easy to win on”.
Steve
Maybe you’d be happier if he was writing "banded racing is great for punters… 100% straight .. and easy to win on".
Steve
Now your just being silly.
Clive, in a way Tom is right. The prices you can get on the exchanges are fantastic and no "sane" person would prefer betting with a bookmaker.
However, a life spent staring at a PC is only half a life imo so you can reduce those Yukon odds by a good half for starters. (I know a multi-tabling poker player and exchange player who didn’t know for a week that Blair had resigned. His skin is the colour of uncooked Scotts Porridge Oats).
So his validity of his amusing and controversial statement depends on the value a person puts on their life experience. Can’t beat a day at the races!
Also agree with all Steve’s points regarding industrymen. Tom is an honest voice at least.
……but the point I was trying to make earlier was that people don’t just go racing to have a bet.
Colin
…agree entirely, Seabird. It would be perhaps a more fulfilling experience if betting was, in fact, made illegal.
Betting made illegal !
Wash your mouth out with soap boy, and go and sit in the garden shed for two hours (that was my punishment for swearing as a lad).
AP
I`d have been very happy to congratulate Segal when he was enjoying that wonderful run of results – it just seems a long time ago.
I haven`t bothered reading anything Segal has said since his article on the Eider where he thought Nil Desperandum did not like heavy ground. All that painstaking research seems to be leading to very odd conclusions.
I`ve watched the odd Post forum – the tone seems sickeningly smug and not always very cogently argued.
Best of luck to Segal though
to be fair to the guy he tipped up purple moon today, I don’t follow the guy but I will read his columns if only for a diffrent perspective. more often than not i disagree entirely but thats alowed. my opinions are not based on those of others but I like to hear them, thats why most of you come on here i suspect.
Perhaps what it suprising is that TS has never come across as a drab numbers obssessed billynomates accountant. Maybe hes simply fallen out of love with the game. If you love a sport you want to experience it live…simple as that.
I believe the following line was in the article (re: Ascot):
“This year you can be drawn anywhere and win”
Problem was, it was meant as a [b:23p4j6kk]criticism[/b:23p4j6kk]
I have to disagree strongly with Tom Segal’s comments. I can think of three good reasons for going racing…
1) you get to see the horses in the paddock and going to post.
2) You can get a proper bet on each-way in a 16-runner handicap with the rails bookmakers.
3) Some tatts bookmakers often go perilously close to the Betfair show (or even over it). It’s quite easy to clock the prices of a bookmaker who monitors Betfair and pounce on the boys in the back line when the price shortens. Regularly backing winners at 8-1 with the fractions instead of 9.0 on Betfair (before comm) will soon save you the cost of admission/travelling expenses.
The main reason I stopped going racing was seeing say 13/2 on a board,going to back the horse,the punter in front of me is backing a different horse,then a workmen from another joint jumps in and says£1300/£200 I get ignored,the board is wiped.I honestly have lost count of the times this has happened.I can understand the reasons this goes on,but the main reason I went to the track was to get the price. As I am useless at paddock watching I find myself better off on Betfair.I do not agree with Tom Segal,only stating my view.
If you go to back a certainty always buy a return ticket.
Chalk Jockey, you’re obviously more polite than I am – just shove ’em out the way and shout "£1000/£150 six"
If everyone stopped going racing, the Racing Post, Segals employer, would be history, and the racecourses would be history, and racing as a whole would be history.
So Mr Segal you rely on the so so called idiots that go racing to keep you in a job. Its that type of smug attitude, somebody else will pay my wages while I sit in the comfort of my own home with a tinny and a laptop by myside and those jackasses are freezing their bo-llox off at the track keeping me in a living. You have went down a notch or 3 in my reckoning with your condescending, I’m alright jack I am looking after number 1 attitude.Considering we are now on the 4th page, may I ask of those that have posted, how many have read the article?
Considering we are now on the 4th page, may I ask of those that have posted, how many have read the article?
Good point Pete, me no, just can’t believe he could slag off racegoers, when it is his life and blood. I don’t go racing for value I go for the day out, and if I drink too much, well so be it !.
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