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Gerald – the link below is to an excellent book about Robert Sangster, how he got involved in breeding and how he and Vincent O’Brien started buying sons of Northern Dancer to form the basis of Coolmore.
Michael Stoute trained a filly called Karasta a few years ago who I’m sure was around 18 hands. She’s probably the biggest I can remember seeing.
This is another good site with lots of photos available to buy:
Left Nostril. Has to be one of the worst names ever.
Found this in the Racing Post:
Bumper winner Chestnut Charlie barred from racing after running in flapper
Published: 20/06/2007 (News) Brian Fleming<br>DUAL bumper winner Chestnut Charlie, a leading fancy for the championship race at the Aintree Grand National meeting that had to be abandoned, has been barred from running in Ireland after he was found to have taken part in flapping races under a different name before scoring at Downpatrick and Limerick this year, writes Brian Fleming.<br>At a Turf Club hearing yesterday, County Tyrone trainer Lindsay Woods was fined 500 after he was found to be in breach of rule 148 (vi) before a committee chaired by Gordon Holmes and assisted by Mary Onions and Charles Cunningham.<br>The investigation found the horse had run under the name of The Boxer when winning a flapping race at Boyle in August last year.<br>Under present rules, any horse who runs at any unrecognised meeting is not qualified to be entered or to run in any race. Before winning that race last year, The Boxer had previously finished only sixth in the Dingle Derby.<br>The matter was referred to the referrals committee following investigations led by Jimmy Johnston, head of security at the Turf Club, and the five-year-old was subsequently disqualified from his two wins, at Downpatrick in February and at Limerick in March.<br>The 2 6 – length runner-up at Downpatrick, the Neill McLuskey-trained Drumboy, and the runner-up at Limerick, the Sean Aherne-trained Cailin Vic Mo Cri, were awarded the races.<br>The referrals committee deemed Terence McGowan, registered as the owner of Chestnut Charlie when the horse finished second in a Kelso bumper in January, not to be in breach of any rule.<br>Chestnut Charlie was not qualified to run in any races after August 27, 2006 in accordance with the provisions of rule 87.<br>During the hearing, the committee considered evidence from Woods, who admitted that he returned Chestnut Charlie to training in the name of Terence McGowan for a period of time when the horse was in fact the property of Fiona McConnell. The committee also considered written evidence from McGowan.<br>Denis Egan, the Turf Club’s chief executive, said after yesterday’s hearing: "It is very unfortunate for any owner to lose two races in this way, but people entering racing need to be aware of the rules. Had they been aware of the rules in this case, the issues that the referrals committee had to deal with today would not have needed to be addressed." <br>
No winners for Fran Ferris but a couple of places…
(Edited by Jane at 5:25 pm on June 24, 2007)
For some more info and pictures here is the website the Langholm Horse Racing Association which runs some of the flapping meetings in the Borders.
Quote: from beauzam on 11:20 am on June 8, 2007[br]It was shortsighted and disingenuous to criticise Murtagh’s ride on Eagle Mountain when for all anyone knows the horse may have been ridden to get the trip.<br>
<br>Here is his whole quote about Johnny Murtagh. Where is the criticism?
"I wouldnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t have wanted to have been back where Johnny [Murtagh] was early on in the Derby, but I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t think he wanted to be there either. He got shuffled back. Johnny did the right thing then, he rode a lovely race from there to get up to get second nicely. Authorized is very good, but Eagle Mountain could give him a race if they meet again.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â
Flapping is horse racing not run under Jockey Club rules. It’s quite popular in the Scottish Borders and meetings take place every couple of weeks or so in the syummer. It provides a career for a number of ex-racehorses and jockeys. Tyrone Williams was riding at the last meeting I was at. I believe that once a horse or jockey takes part in a flapping meeting they are no longer eligible to take part in any ‘proper’ racing.
Stories that current racecorses may occassionally masquerade as ‘flappers’ under different names are completely without foundation. :biggrin:
Of course Judpot’s other half brothers also include Kingmambo and Miesque’s Son.
A few other well bred two year olds he has include Timetable, a half brother to Passage Of Time by Observatory; Crystany, a daughter of Crystal Music and Colourful Move, a half brother to Wince.
Standin Obligation has been moved from David Pipe’s yard to Monteith.
I think he was going to have to wait a year until reapplyingp for his licence and I also think I read he was going back to the far east. I’m not entirely sure however so I stand to be corrected.
Thanks but I’d managed to find another photo of him in an old book of racing photos.
I wish they’d do more of these though. I enjoy researching and trying to find out answers to obscure questions!
I was struggling too with Q37 so decided to search google images by the name of each horse. Looking at the possible answers you’ll see why this wasn’t a good idea!