November 8, 2009 at 18:31 #13176thehorsesmouthParticipant
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I was wondering if I heard the American comentators right, I thuoght they said she was 17 hands Some big mare!November 8, 2009 at 19:09 #257932
I think I read somewhere she’s around 17.3.November 8, 2009 at 19:13 #257935cormack15Keymaster
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She certainly looked very big on TV, although that can be deceptive. Looked more of a stallion than most of the prospective stallions in the field! Has she been gender tested I wonder!November 8, 2009 at 19:23 #257938
17.2, actually. Here’s a link to the discussion. ‘AfleetTreet’ mentions it towards the bottom of the page.
If you get a chance to watch the race again, look at the size of her compared to Twice Over down the stretch.November 8, 2009 at 20:07 #257947robert99Participant
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Yes, 17 hands and 1200 pounds.
You can see why she needed the 3 pound mare’s allowance against the boys and why McCririck "thought" she had no chance against "men".
Wonder what stride length she reached to compare with Secretariat?
Can’t remember ever seeing a horse dance on all four "toes" in the preliminaries. Her hind quarters sashaying engine was so massive that it was more like a sumo wrestler limbering up for a bashu.November 8, 2009 at 21:43 #257968roryParticipant
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I was wondering if I heard the American comentators right, I thuoght they said she was 17 hands Some big mare!
According to Todd Schrupp of US broadcaster TVG, she’s 19 hands!November 8, 2009 at 22:44 #257982robert99Participant
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Todd Schrupp that would be bigger than a Shire Horse
Height Of The Shire Horse
The Shire horse stands 16.2 to 18 hh.
"Shirreffs told a story last year about how Baffert wanted to prove Midnight Lute was bigger and marched into Shirreffs’ barn one morning with a tape measure, claiming he was the "myth buster." He left a few minutes later, mumbling something about, ‘Yep, Zenyatta is bigger.’ Shirreffs says he’s never seen a bigger horse, and not just because she’s 17 hands tall. Lots of horses have been 17 hands tall, but it’s her hind that is so massive and so powerful that sets her apart from other big horses."November 8, 2009 at 23:22 #257985AnonymousInactive
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Using a photograph from her victory in last year’s Ladies Classic, Robert, Zenyatta appears to have a stride angle of approximately 91.5 degrees (in comparison to Secratariat’s 110 degrees).
Below is a link to the image I used:
Zenyatta StrideNovember 9, 2009 at 01:18 #257996
The video I’ve posted in the ‘Big Race’ section compares the size of Zenyatta to some other horses and she is ‘officially’ 17 1/2 hh.November 9, 2009 at 11:22 #258015Irish StampMember
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The Z Monster had dressage training hence her odd walk in the parade ring tooNovember 9, 2009 at 20:24 #258066JaneParticipant
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Michael Stoute trained a filly called Karasta a few years ago who I’m sure was around 18 hands. She’s probably the biggest I can remember seeing.November 9, 2009 at 21:40 #258081RoseblossomMember
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She’s one big mare, all the video I’ve seen of her she just monsters the other horses around her. I didn’t realise she’s had dressage training, I was really impressed by her Spanish Walk!
Original is the biggest racehorse I’ve ever seen – he’s 18.2 hands.November 10, 2009 at 00:46 #258102AlyshebaFanMember
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Yes. 17.2 hands. Bob Baffert who has Midnight Lute who is 17 hands did not believe she was that big. He actually had them both measured. She is bigger than he is and he’s a monster.
This is her next to the lead pony last year at SA.
And on the turn:
Or you could take a ride yourself:
The last is Mike Smith riding her in a morning workout.November 10, 2009 at 01:14 #258104breezingMember
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She’s never had dressage training – she just started doing "her thing" last year at Del Mar. The race before the Breeders’ Cup she starting doing something that resembled one tempis. One of my favorite quotes about her is from fellow jockey Garrett Gomez after last years Lady’s Secret:
“Zenyatta is just amazing," he said. "You can’t say anything negative about her. She just keeps winning. She’s a huge thing. She just kind of gallops around there and keeps galloping at a quick pace. I watched Mike Smith warm her up, and he didn’t. He walked her back from the sixteenth or eighth pole and they just stood there. She seems to have some quirks about her. She’s a funny thing, but she sure runs fast.”
I always knew when someone was seeing her for the first time at the track because they would get concerned when she started pawing, strutting, bunny-hopping and were really worried when she wasn’t warmed up in the way they were used to seeing. I will truly miss this beautiful, goofy, quirky mare.November 11, 2009 at 17:04 #258241thehorsesmouthParticipant
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That’s really astonishing. Mazing really how such a large mare has such a devastating turn of foot.
19 hands ffs
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