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Surley the real scandal is why RUK are using Joe Rowntree as a pundit – it’s like when the Sportsman went tits up, who was the first person to get work back on the Racing Post? That’s right, G Lester.
Quote: from Maxilon 5 on 1:01 pm on June 21, 2007[br]Racing UK employed a black paddock analyst at Sandown’s evening meeting three weeks ago.
He was excellent, picking out a big priced Channon winner. I enjoyed his pre-race commentary and didn’t know he was black until the final race.<br>
I suggest you buy a new telly – your contrast is obviously f**ked.
I’m not sure about this unlucky Dandy Man business. The two best performances he has put up in his life have come when he’s raced pretty much alone – if he’s better with cover, he would have had to annihilated the opposition in some of the other races he’s run in, which he hasn’t (except when he beat nothing of note at Naas in April). Give him credit for an excellent performance by all means, but don’t say he was unlucky.
Cockney Rebel travelled like the best horse in the race – which I maintain that he still is. Quite obvious that something is hurting him and I fear that Geoff Huffer will have a job on his hands to get this horse to repeat his Guineas’ displays. I hope I’m wrong, I remain a big fan.
You couldn’t make it up could you. The worst part is that I’m not even surprised.
when the morning line started in around ’89 I thought it was a great idea and that all the presenters involved were fresh and insightful – it has been a walking corpse for at least 7 or 8 years and it really is an abysmal waste of 50 minutes terrestrial air-time. I’d rather watch 50 minutes of air racing even if the columns are not made of concrete as I first thought.
Cockney Rebel continues to be overpriced in his races because he is trained by Geoff Huffer – lump on, the horse would be odds-on if it was trained at Ballydoyle.
I think George Washington has been seriously over-hyped throughout his career by the Ballydoyle publicity machine – At 2 he won 4 on the spin at the Curragh, he didnt travel across to take on our top juveniles; he naturally outspeeded Sir Percy, a middle-distance performer, to win the Guineas, the rest of the field being distinctly below-par; beaten at the Curragh and Goodwood afterwards, I thought his best performance came in the QEII in September, but to me he didnt beat a much stronger field there than Red Evie did in the Lockinge. <br>Of course, at his best, he will win win next week, that is a patently obvious comment – but what are the chances of him reproducing that best? Less than 40% I would suggest, making 6-4 a poor value wager.
Quote: from sberry on 10:17 am on June 12, 2007[br]after 10 years of racing and having his 90th race at the age of 14 he fell and died at the last fence when looking set for picking up his eighth win
he placed 29 times often at good prices and was a reliable old thing, once being rated as high as 95 over fences after picking up a hat trick
sometimes i think that not enough recognition is given to the rest of the field, racing wouldn’t exist without horses like this and his ilk on the flat
i feel very sad for the connections of this horse :(
I don’t understand why you feel sorry for the connections of this horse, and castigate the owners of Cockney for not accepting the 10 mill. I think your opening line says it all about whether this poor old bugger should have still been flogging his way around Nabbot.
Interesting reading. As Welshmen, socialists, and lovers of racing we have a few things in common.
As a punter, I find the idea of a tote monopoly appaling. However, as someone who would still devote a sizeable chunk of his life to the sport if punting avenues were unavailable, I have long thought it the optimum way for any racing industry to secure funding. The Australian model strikes me as the best.<br>I think you are mistaken to describe football as a non-intellectual pastime, unlike racing. Surely all pleasure pursuits can be as intellectual or not as the pursuer wishes to make them. What is the intellectual aspect of racing that you were thinking of? Training horses? Placing them? Finding winners? Tactics in other sports can be seen as equally cerebral. I know exactly where you are coming from, but I think we are deluding ourselves to place racing on a pedestal just because it is our particular thing- it is the same road which ends up with people describing Fallon as a genius. Who’s to say that he isn’t a genius, but if he is, he has made a fine job of his talent, riding horses up and down a strip of grass all day. <br>By the way, I think that you’re a top guy to answer all those questions with thought and reason, the temptation to provide glib answers to some must have been enormous.
Quote: from Smithy on 6:30 pm on June 10, 2007[br]Is this another one of your lodgers performing a heinous piece of aftertiming, prufrock?<br>
When did they move Northampton to the West Country?? :P
Quote: from Salselon on 9:51 pm on June 10, 2007[br]TWW,
You are a knob.
Of the highest order.
is that allowed?
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Harsh, but fair.
Quote: from non vintage on 10:38 pm on June 11, 2007[br]My feeling is that this guidance could or should be changed so that they have to be sure the interference didn’t change the result in order to let it stand…<br>
I agree with you to a point in that the stewards interpretation of the current rules mean that results which ought to be amended are allowed to stand, but if what you said there was implemented there would be hundreds of disqualifications every season.
I was sat next to Alex at Aintree on Grand National day 2004 watching Arsenal play Man U in the FA Cup semi – <br>I remember having this overwhelming feeling that if I licked her she’d taste of pink bubble gum. I saw her at Chepstow the other week. She is no longer blonde. I didn’t get that feeling again.
When I worked at SIS, a representative from Paddy Power called one morning and asked quite sternly if we could stick to either South-well or Suth-ull as a standard studio pronunciation as some of their punters were getting confused. Mind-boggling!<br>Meanwhile, years ago, a close bookie pal insisted on referring to our national team’s goalie as Neville Suth-ull…I knew this was just plain wrong but maddeningly I started thinking of him in that pronunciation myself. It gets worse as I now mentally pronounce the railway station I pass on the final approach to Paddington as Suth-ull also – I know this is wrong too but I can’t stop thinking of it that way – am I suffering from some kind of hock-deep-dirt-related malady?
I disagree. There is no point in trying him over ten furlongs (a trip I’d be quite doubtful of him staying given the speed he showed when coming from last to first to win our Guineas) when the Sussex or the Marois, both ideally spaced between the two Ascot Group 1’s I mentioned earlier, would appear to be penalty kicks. There are no older milers to be worried about!
I think Frankie made a very revealing point about Fallon when some numpty (possibly the S.S. Vince) asked him after the Derby if he ever felt like switching over to the rail coming into the straight to save ground – he cackled and said "Nooooo Noooo I’m not Kieron I dont do things like that!!"<br>Fallon’s strength in the saddle has been unrivalled in recent history – personally the only like I’ve seen is Eddery in his mid-to-late eighties pomp – but as the man says, how many times does he have to "strength" home horses that should have won with minimum fuss because of his inept tactical awareness?<br>
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