June 16, 2007 at 09:45 #2014sporting samParticipant
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Watched Channel fours Morning line<br>today for the first time in many months.<br> Glad I dont bother with this tripe normally.<br>It was truely awful<br>Alice Plunkett fronted the show McGrath was the middle man, Lesley was at rained off York and they were looking around at each other for inspiration and things to say. <br>Very missable……<br>the most useful info? Its very wet in York and there are a lot of suspensions flying about at the moment.June 16, 2007 at 21:54 #65007zilzalParticipant
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Hope you didn’t forget to turn off the light, Sam :bore:June 16, 2007 at 22:57 #65009Jim JTSMember
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Sam’s correct, the show is a joke, I actually watched it one morning, the first time in almost a year and there is nothing on there that the ordinary man in the street doesn’t already know, almost every race that they do get to talk about the favourite is always highlighted as if this was the only horse in the race, though Francome does actually try and give a bit of value and mentions a few others, I’ve never liked the show to be honest so maybe I’m a bit biased but I feel they could offer a bit more, it’s no wonder there isn’t as big an interest in racing that there ought to be, it’s impossible for newbies looking to get involved in racing to get excited by watching this show, it’s a comedy, for the record the show I watched was the one that had the so called Claire Balding shoes on and everyone laughed like little kids not even interested in racing as Big Mac sniffed the shoes.
C’mon channel 4 get a grip. :(June 17, 2007 at 09:07 #65010sporting samParticipant
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Things did get much better in the afternoon with a moving interview and feature highlighting the work of Macmillan Nurses. The great work MacMillan do affects most of us.<br>———————————————————————<br>Thommo comes along after Black Charmers race and says;<br>"Y`know everyone wants to know what the French connection is with the winning Jockey and I can tell you<br>Hes not French, its His father He makes Horsesboxes<br>and his Mum shes a lovely Blonde Lady and thats how He came about…………..Hoh Hoh Hoh. "<br>June 17, 2007 at 14:23 #65011the welsh wizardMember
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when the morning line started in around ’89 I thought it was a great idea and that all the presenters involved were fresh and insightful – it has been a walking corpse for at least 7 or 8 years and it really is an abysmal waste of 50 minutes terrestrial air-time. I’d rather watch 50 minutes of air racing even if the columns are not made of concrete as I first thought.June 17, 2007 at 16:18 #65012FlashMember
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It’s getting worse. A couple of years ago it was good well worth the watch, nowadays its embarassingly bad.June 17, 2007 at 21:53 #65013bluechariotMember
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Yes McCririck was very embarrassing. He was taking about how Australians do not look good in Ascot gear and the simple reason in his mind is that they have no class.<br>McCririck is the one without class. A nasty ignorant oaf.June 18, 2007 at 07:04 #65014KevinMember
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Yes I watched it Saturday morning as well. first time for ages. Pretty poor effort. McCririck’s Aussie comment was cringeworthy. Imagine if he had said that about say arabs.
What amazes me is the lack of time spent on actually looking at the racing in any depth. It seems to be a vehicle for these pundits to promote themselves. The cart is right in the front of the horse.
Also, I would like to see some proper stats over the years for these charity bets and phone competitions ripping people off.June 18, 2007 at 07:27 #65015madman marzMember
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Yes it might not be everyones cup of tea.<br>But for a minority sport, to get a 50 minute slot on a saturday morning is an achievement in itself.<br>I for one would miss it if it wasn’t there. The quality of the show usually goes up and down, depending on the presenters or the quality of guests.<br>As for the ignorant oaf, actually I think he is a breath of fresh air, he is about the only presenter that makes me laugh. "Mc Cririck rules":cheesy:June 18, 2007 at 10:07 #65016graysonscolumnParticipant
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Quote: from Kevin on 8:04 am on June 18, 2007[br]<br>What amazes me is the lack of time spent on actually looking at the racing in any depth. <br>
<br>Case in point: the assembled pundits’ admission that they’d not looked at one of the Scoop6 races, the 3.10 at Hexham, before coming on air.
Notwithstanding the fact that this obviously wouldn’t have been one of the original Scoop6 races before York’s abandonment, the facts are that:
(a) they’d known this would have been one of the replacement races since partway through Friday afternoon, and <br>(b) they only had, I think, eight horses to choose from in that race, of which a line could have been put through a couple almost straight away.
Clearly a Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£4,500 added handicap hurdle on unseasonal ground at Hexham is far from typical fare for a mid-June edition of Channel 4 Racing, but it defeats me entirely that nobody among the assembled ranks could have taken the time to give a more informed view in the time available. I wouldn’t have expected a detailed analysis of the six animals with a chance of winning, but neither would (should?) I have expected the sub-Andy Pipkins yawn and shrug of an effort the team delivered.
The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.June 18, 2007 at 13:23 #65017clivexMember
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Havent watched it in ages. With RUK i find i almost forget C4 exists. The 1970’s humour and the pure irritation of presenters like plunkett and Graham is too much to bear
But its about time RUk had a preview programme on sats at least. Hardly a massive expense and when they get it togther before the festivals, they do a very decent jobJuly 15, 2007 at 18:33 #108004steveh31Participant
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If you watched the moring line on Sat 14 July can you tell me if Emma Spencer actually contributed to the show apart from give out the details for Salisbury. She just sat there and twiddled her pen for 55 minutes. Nice work if you can get it. The show really needs a revampJuly 15, 2007 at 19:13 #108010HimselfParticipant
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Bring back Brough Scott and the Lord Oaksey. Those were the days.
Gambling Only Pays When You're WinningJuly 15, 2007 at 19:28 #108015Shadow LeaderMember
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Yes McCririck was very embarrassing. He was taking about how Australians do not look good in Ascot gear and the simple reason in his mind is that they have no class.<br>McCririck is the one without class. A nasty ignorant oaf.
Interestingly enough as I walked through the gate at Chester around 1120 yesterday morning the woman on the gate was only interested in finding out whether or not the ignorant oaf would be in attendance. "Is he here today?" she asked – "I hope not, we’re usually lucky enough that he only comes here once a year…"July 15, 2007 at 19:49 #108019Maxilon 5Member
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Yes it might not be everyones cup of tea.But for a minority sport, to get a 50 minute slot on a saturday morning is an achievement in itself.
Agreed totally Madman. I wonder what the frequency of these recurrent threads will be when horse racing disappears forever from terrestrial TV.
The BBC cherrypick the premium events. Radio 5 have dropped the bulletins. Channel 4 are essentially paid by the racing industry to keep going and that may stopped soon.
Then there’s the racing itself. Kempton admitted in todays Observer that they’re now concentrating on marketing "entertainment". Sandown is haemorraging racegoers at an alarming rate and will surely follow suit. The biggest attended meetings in Newmarket are ones coinciding with tribute bands and has-beens. Ladies nights all over are huge. Two of Southwell’s three biggest attendances this year were a Motown night and the Miss Newark beauty pageant.
On Cubone’s blog, he mentions Nottingham being the "worst track in the country". How times change. Yesterday’s washed out meeting was an advance sell out and most of the racegoers would have been dressed up to the nines, p***ed as navvies and betting jollies with fivers. It’s all about money, like everything else.
There’s a lot of dreamland living on this thread. I wish everyone in the country would wake up and immediately turn to the racing pages like we all do, but those days are sadly over. There’s just too much gambling competition and the sport requires an investment many potential punters find difficult to commit to.
And The Morning Line was the first to realise all this by creating an accessible magazine. And I think we’ll all be sorry when it’s gone. Imo of course.
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