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  • #2063
    aidanldrebin
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    Was anything wrong with him? Seemed to hang.

    #65296
    davidjohnson
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    Did the same in Ireland.

    #65298
    heffo
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    Jockey stopped riding him too.

    #65299
    heffo
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    AP O’Brien is a greedy thing 1st 2nd 3rd……..

    #65300
    aidanldrebin
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    Yeah but that was severe hanging today and also came to win. Oh well I got 14s on Duke Of Marmalade e/w!!!

    #65301
    Money on
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    Hard to peak a horse for 3 top class races in the space of a month and a half and Peslier won’t be showing that ride to the grandchildren.

    #65302
    benbdb
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    he hung in ireland and i think the bends got a lot to do with that, coming round the inside rail he hangs left when he switches stride, at newmarket he had the rail and a straight track.

    #65303
    clivex
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    First thoughts were what a rotten ride, but to be over half way away from the filed (how many lengths lost is that?) indicates something more perhaps

    Didnt settle well either

    #65304
    Librettist
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    I think what it is proves is that after giving away that much distance by hanging and without being ridden out he was still only about a length behind the winner and therefore Cockney Rebel is easily the best horse in the race.

    A shame for Huffer – it’s always nice to see the big boys turned over by the little ‘uns.

    #65305
    Flash
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    Quote: from Librettist on 4:04 pm on June 19, 2007[br]I think what it is proves is that after giving away that much distance by hanging and without being ridden out he was still only about a length behind the winner and therefore Cockney Rebel is easily the best horse in the race.

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    <br>Not sure I agree with that. Not saying he isn’t the best horse in the race but easily? If you look at the winning distance over Dutch Art compared with Cockney Rebel’s at Newmarket you cold aggue there is very little between Cockney Rebel and Excellent Art.

    I don’t think Cockney Rebel is head and shoulders above everything else by any means.

    #65306
    Anonymous
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    "Hanging without being ridden"?<br>The horse was given half a dozen good cracks before he hung across the course, a sure sign in my view that he was just knackered, and that’s probably as good as he is.

    (Edited by reet hard at 4:12 pm on June 19, 2007)

    #65307
    benbdb
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    i don’t think you can blame the jockey, he came from last to 1st at newmarket and nobody mentioned the ride he was given there. plus the winner was settled even further back and came through nicely. just a combination of maybe one big race too many and maybe would be better left handed. french 2000 form looks pretty good though.

    #65308
    davidbrady
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    The Curragh is right-handed

    #65309
    Aragorn
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    Haven’t seen the race, but if you watch the french guineas again you’ll see that excellent art was all over the winner but got a shocker of a ride from Spencer.. 8/1 was a crazy price and i’m surprised he wasn;t piled into.

    #65310
    benbdb
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    I know the Curragh is right handed and if you watch it he hung there too, was far less impressive than newmarket win.<br>Excellent art shouldve won the french guineas and confirmed it today and astronomer royal confirmed over creachadoir thats why i say it looks solid.<br>Duke of Marmalade was entitled to improve after being injured most of last year.

    #65311
    Money on
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    Yeah it was well highlighted that it was a troubled passage in France but if he would of got the gap then Spencer would of been praised for the ride. It couldve been the same story today had he not got the gaps but fortune favours the brave.

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    madman marz
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    That Creachadoir was about the same distance behind him, would suggest to me that Cockney Rebel ran his race. Simply wasn’t good enough.

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