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Aiden mentioned tapestry running at longchamp on atr after ol man rivers win today. The Great War might be abbey bound and Chiquitita and ruler of the world for the arc and glen eagles running as well. Presumably Joseph will be on ruler of the world as I’m sure he won’t make the weight on the filly. Didn’t realise that coolmore sold half of ruler of the world only of Joseph retained the ride. Loyalty indeed,
Ol man river looks to me to be the most exciting 2yo this season. He won very easily and looks to have huge amounts of scope. JFK also looks a tremendous prospect and reminds me of high chaparral in his 2yo days. Gleneagles is running at longchamp next weekend. He looks more forward than the other obrien 2yos and looks guineas material. That leaves highland reel to place. A nice quandary for aiden to have.
Seems tapestry is going to longchamp but not for the arc. Doesn’t bode well for taghrrodas chances. Wonder why they aren’t going for the arc.
When Australia does go to stud it will be interesting to see how he gets on. High chaparral could develop even more with free eagle flying the flag for him. Soon be time to see Camelot and so you thinks offspring so plenty of ammo for coolmore to come yet. Breeding has never been so competitive.
I think mastercraftsman will get sent a better standard of mare and looks a very good stallion in the making.
Sir Isaac Newton I think has had a niggly injury as I’m sure he was down to run at the curragh but never lined up. Should be interesting when he does eventually run.
Depends where tapestry goes. A wee break to either fillies or mares on champions day or breeders cup and tapestry will be bang there. Hopefully tapestry remains in training as she could be a cracking 4yo to look forward to.
Words looks a good prospect. Ol man river looks like going for the royal lodge so it’s likely JFK will be sent to the racing post trophy and gleneagles the Dewhurst. Not sure where highland reel will go but could be kept till next season. Ballydoyle has some cracking looking 2yo who haven’t run yet so expect one or two to win maidens handsomely and get silly quotes for the guineas/derby.
Had that been a coolmore horse then the criticism would have gone into overdrive. Can’t get my head around why it had to be retired as it had plenty of time to get ready for next season. Seems Khalid Abdullah is governed by the the same financial needs as coolmore and darley etc. great pity as I was thinking Australia had a chance of beating him in the qe2. Agree with the point re the horses issues and how that could be transmitted to its offspring. Sires like mastercraftsman were tough horses and you need that if you are going to be a long term success at stud.
Btw didn’t realise gosden was assistant to noël murless before becoming asst to Vincent obrien. If you can’t become a top trainer after working with these guys then you are in the wrong game. Would have handled the likes of alleged my fav ever horse who I saw win the voltigeur by ten lengths from the derby runner up,hot grove, the first time I went racing.
John gosden spent a short time with vincent obrien at ballydoyle and I believe handled the minstrel when winning the derby so maybe some of the ballydoyle habits have rubbed off on him. As I said before maybe an idea for the likes of aiden,gosden and stoute to have spokesman to speak to the press and leave them to concentrate on their horses. Your unlikely to get a reasoned answer after one of their favourite horses just got stuffed.
Infuriating nonsense. Any horse that reaches the standard of wig more hall is looked after better than most humans are on the Nhs and would get the best of everything. Horses can break legs at any time as happened with furners green after finishing an unlucky third in the French 2000 guineas. It happens to horses in the wild of course but there is nobody there to give them medical treatment or to put them out of their pain. Articles like this I don’t think help their cause and they should concentrate where there are cases of animal cruelty.
The problem Irish racing has is that it relays too heavily on coolmore for the big Irish group ones if the English or French trainers don’t send a few group one horses over to support the races. I doubt very much aiden suggested running tapestry in the matron after her brilliant win in the Yorkshire oaks. I’m sure he would have given her a break and then run on champions day at ascot or the breeders cup. She will probably now go to the breeders cup. I hope she stays in training as she could be a superb 4yo mare. The running of tapestry illustrates perfectly the dilemma aiden has in that the lads decide where the top horses go. Adelaide forvinstance looks to be improving rapidly so is shipped off to Australia. Again I doubt aiden had much say in that.its all part of the pressure of training for cool more and it is a great credit to aiden and his family handle it so well. Yes aiden is a bit of a control freak but when your handling horses with potentially worth tens of millions of pounds you would be too. Aiden to me is one of the top four trainers of my lifetime with Vincent obrien,sir Henry and Noel murless. Keep on knocking him by all means but I’m sure aiden and family will keep producing top class horses for coolmore. Btw aiden has already broken his prize money record won in Ireland and is likely to win over £8 to 9m in prize money miles ahead as the top European trainer yet again and that is when he has had a few of his top horses injured and the cough for six weeks early in the season.Im sure one of his top 2yo will no doubt be a champion 3yo next year as well. Hopefully we will see him training at the top for many years to come.
I think the anti obrien hysteria on here is getting as bad as reactions to Murray and Rowling speaking on independence. As I’ve said many times already john magnier is loyal to a fault but if he feels he needs a change he will. He recognises though that there is no better trainer than aiden and until that is the case he will be at ballydoyle. Aiden is the only top class trainer who trains as instructed by the owners and the stoutes hannon sand Cecil’s of this world did not or do not have that pressure.as the trainer,as in Frankels handling has the final say. Murtagh and Fallon were both effectively fired by magnier as they weren’t doing the business for whatever reason. A lot of stuff on here is jealousy of coolmore but they bought into Northern dancer,then got sailers wells and then Galileo. Now with the likes of fastnet rock,war front and the joker in the pack mastercraftsman, theywill be very successful for many years to come. Even although Australia got beaten it was by a horse sired by a coolmore stallion. Leave cool more to the lads and aiden as we can only dream of what they have got and the pressure that goes with it. Btw by the way his offspring behave aiden is obviously a good person so can we please leave out some of the ott stuff on here about him.
As far as we all know magnier is the boss and has the final say on all matters coolmore. He has shown in the past that he will fire jockeys if he feels the need to but getting someone who can handle the pressure of being no 1 at coolmore is different to getting Moore to ride when available. All the top jockeys have retainers and the rest won’t be any better than young Joseph. Getting rid of Joseph though would be a lot more tricky than say Fallon previously although if push came to shove Joseph would stand aside instead of waiting for the bullet I suspect. Maybe magnier is being too loyal but unless he can get someone willing to move to Ireland and handle all the Job entails he won’t change jockeys.
Staggered at people’s presumption as to how ballydoyle runs. Aiden is an employee of cool more as is Joseph and head man john magnier would change things if he felt the need. As allistair down said coolmore are very loyal to there people and magnier knows that aiden is still one of the top trainers now and for the last two decades. Remember it’s the lads who decide where horses are placed and aiden trains them accordingly something stoute hannon or sir Henry never have had to deal with. Coolmore is the most pressurised gig in British and Irish racing with the sole aim to creat potential stallions. As I said before Ryan Moore was offered the job but didn’t want to uproot to Ireland and neither did the likes of Hughes. Pat smullen is another who was in the frame but knows the pressure that comes with being stable jockey at ballydoyle and stayed put. Joseph to me has done remarkably well considering his age and as barzalona has found out its tough for young jockeys now. We will find out at ascot how much the loss on Australia was down to Joseph.
I believe Ryan Moore was offered the job but didn’t want to relocate to cashew co Tipperary preferring to stay at Newmarket. Joseph then came along and as he is there every day does the stable jockey role. Aiden is a hard boss apparently and many jockeys have been stable jockeys at coolmore. All have found it tough and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that j murtagh rode his best spell in the saddle after leaving ballydoyle. Joseph is never going to win being aidens son but is regularly employed by the likes of Eddie lynam so he must have a good degree of talent.
