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  • #62472
    Money on
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    Fair play to Seamie and he is finally getting the rides which deserves. He may not be as good as Fallon but he he is loyal and has been riding the 2nd second string for years. He is a very decent jock and not many flat jocks can claim to have ridden 5 winners over hurdles.

    #62473
    davidbrady
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    Looks like only 4 with a Hd defeat in a Stayers

    #62474
    andyod
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    Exactly what Ballydoyle needs for the Derby. National hunt jockeys. Shades of Dorothy Paget and MartinMolony.

    #62475
    wit
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    ….maybe Ballydoyle should steer clear of National Hunt trainers too  ;)

    #1907
    andyod
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    Not a word in the Forum about Darley buying the derby winner. We used to go crazy when they bought made horses.<br>Maybe when Coolmore started to do it it was OK?

    #64049
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    Did ‘we’?

    #64051
    madman marz
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    Quote: from andyod on 6:57 pm on June 8, 2007[br]Not a word in the Forum about Darley buying the derby winner. We used to go crazy when they bought made horses.<br>Maybe when Coolmore started to do it it was OK?

    Was it not bought as a stallion prospect Andy ?<br>I know a horse has only 2 balls, but believe me the original owner has kept a share in those balls !.

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    And what Darley have done is bought the horse as a future stallion, and leased him back to his Kuwaiti ‘owners’ for the remainder of the season.

    Bit of a non-story really. Darley see him as a reasonable business opportunity and the Kuwaiti pair want to guarantee and realise their asset.

    #64053
    andyod
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    Did I not read that he may stay in training as a 4yo?

    #64054
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    I think they implied that he wouldn’t race on, but this wasn’t stated explicitly.

    #64055
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    <br>Shock, horror – stud owners buy stallion. Whatever next ….

    Harmison bowls straight ball ……

    Newcastle Utd buy top class defender ……

    Olympic boses buy stupid logo ……..

    Gordon Brown cuts taxes ……..

    OK, the last one is just silly !

    AP

    #64056
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    Sorry Apracing<br> I thought they bought a race horse or at least a horse in training.I would imagine that every horse they buy in training is a stud prospect(Electricutionist for example). Like Tabor buying Montjue or Hurricane Run. My point being that buying horses in training has become a non issue. Whereas a couple of years ago it used to create uproar like stealing a horse from a trainer after he achieved what they could not achieve.

    #64057
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    Is this a tacit admission that the boycott of Coolmore stallions has failed ?

    #64058
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    Andyod – you are right, there have been occasions when the Arabs scooping up talent from other owners and trainers has attracted quite heated debate on here. In the main though it’s been when they’ve taken decent two or three year old prospects and removed them from the yards they’d been in when their talent had been unearthed with a view to continuing racing them.

    This case is slightly different as they have no plans (so far as I know) to race the horse after the season end although that, of course, could change.

    My own take on it is that it is a way to get some Coolmore blood in by the back door, so to speak. A policy of having nothing to do with Coolmore stallions is unsustainable in the short, medium or long term.

    In addition it puts a slightly different slant on the sporting release of Frankie to ride the horse in the Derby, does it not.<br>

    #64059
    madman marz
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    You said it Cormack, we can assume the deal was struck even before he ran in the Derby.

    #64060
    andyod
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    On the contrary Madman I would assume that they were waiting to win the Derby or did I miss the sarcasm?

    #64061
    andyod
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    Seems like the cost of doing business in the UAE is that you dont outshine the boss.

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