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I backed RP just before the off at 5.1, so I’m happy enough. However, once again I’m left questioning tactics Barzalona’s tactics. In my opinion he’s a bit like Jamie Spencer, except without the good days. Am I being totally ridiculous here by not rating him at all?
I think Usherette has been unlucky not to have notched up a couple of high profile wins already this season, no doubt the result of poor riding by Barzalona. He got her into trouble in the Prix D’Ispahan and the Duke of Cambridgeshire Stakes, when I think she should have won both. Then she was tried as a front-runner in the Rothschild, which definitely wouldn’t have suited. Her run last time out was no doubt a prep run, and it wouldn’t have bothered me if she lost. She will improve from it, and if she’s in the same kind of form as in the Prix D’Ispahan and the Duke of Cambridgeshire, she’ll be hard to beat.
Brametot hugely flattered by racing prominently by my reading of the sectionals from the Arc. Order Of St George, Idaho and Brametot the key ‘sectional downgrade’ horses according to the figures.
Head-on replays suggests he was struggling to hold his position at the time of the ‘mullering’, then struggled to hold fellow backpeddler Idaho and the deep closers for his midfield spot.
You’ll get value though, Degaussed. Rouget “95% sure” he’ll run Brametot so you’re looking good on that score.
If you’re correct, then you could argue that the drop back down to 10 furlongs will suit him better, judging him on his Jockey Club win.
Do you have the source on the quote btw? I like to read these things to gauge how the trainer is feeling.
If we do get good ground, Seventh Heaven is a massive price currently at 11.00! Conversely, if we get terrible ground, it’s Bateel’s to lose.
I’ve had Bramtetot at 17.50. He would have finished third or second in the Arc without getting mullered two furlongs out, and if he did he would be a quarter of his current price. That’s not to mention that most shorter in the betting than him are unlikely to turn up! Currently the betting is:
1. Cracksman (4.50)
2. Barney Roy (7.00)
3. Enable (7.00)
4. Winter (8.00)
5. Poets Word (9.00)
6. Ulysses (11.00)
7. Al Wukair (13.00)
8. Brametot (11.00)You can straight away take out Enable and Ulysses. Cracksman is still not confirmed to even go, and there’s no guaranteeing he’ll be just as good or better over shorter. I’m not sure how good the Poets Word form is, and Al Wukair seems more likely to go to the QE2. Brametot has shorted to roughly where he should be, although maybe deserves to be a bit shorter, I just hope he runs.
I’m pretty sure Gustav Klimt has been put away for the season, and the same for the Pentagon. I don’t know why they are in the betting, though I might be wrong.
Embryonic 2018 Arc market is up!
Any early value? Any horses you’d like us to add?
September
Though I wouldn’t bet on that until after she wins the Oaks
Brametot, Olmedo, Mission Impassible.
I would never have chosen Aclaim, especially at his price. He’s done that well, though.
Brando didn’t run any kind of race. Really strange how he’s bottomed out on his last two runs.
Champion Stakes: Brametot 1 point win at 17.00 (Paddy Power, Betfair, Betfred)
Breeders Cup Mile: Lancaster Bomber 1 point win at 21.00 (generally)
Olmedo looked the winner in that race, but didn’t seem to want to go through with it? Or wasn’t as experienced as Happily?
Either way, I think he will win the Jockey Club.
Btw if Gosden says Enable stays in training, does that help speed up Cracksman´s maturing process and we see him again this year? 😉
Gosden knew Cracksman had nothing to gain in this Arc. This was such an even field behind Enable that he could easily have finished nowhere. Best case was he finishes second and everybody just shrugs their shoulders.
Cracksman won’t be seen again until his 5yo season.
Finally got my money back on Rhododendron today after losing heavily on her in the Guineas & Oaks.
You had to back her really, as you all say – look who it took to beat her at Epsom!
Agreed. When Winter pulled out of the race, her price dropped to 5.50. Then when Ryan chose the other one, her price nearly doubled! I managed to get her at 9.00.
Lady Frankel was my second choice – I felt sick when she was making her way through the field.
Enable nearly ruined Rhododendron in the Oaks. 😉
Enable must be pretty good, then!
JC Rouget clearly not happy with how things panned out for Brametot. He wasn’t sure what will happen with him now.
If anyone sees any quotes from trainers about any of the runners, could you post them here? Would be interesting to see what’s happening with the horses following this, especially the 3yos.
Trainer John Gosden said: “She’s very special and she was well positioned by Frankie in order to show her sheer class and brilliance.
“It’s all about the filly and the owner-breeder Prince Khalid [Abdullah]. He bred the mother and for his farm to produce something like this is exciting for us all.
“I think it would be wrong to run her again this year. I think to go to the Breeders’ Cup would be wrong, too hard on the filly.
“If she’s in great form we should consider next year. Maybe it would be wonderful to go to the opening of the new Longchamp and try to do it again.”
