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  • in reply to: Grand National – marks out of 10 #1690841
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    Was it after 2013 there was vague acknowledgement that the changes had gone a bit too far ? Can’t see there’s any hope for such acknowledgement now.

    We are left with a handicap that could be interesting but not compelling. As plenty, Peter in particular have said, the early release of the weights runs counter to this. An anachronism that should end forthwith. A failure to consider Cheltenham and The Bobbyjo is a dead loss.

    Given the very likely subterfuge in cross country and hurdles preparation the handicapper should err on the harsh side for such participants and be loathe to drop the mark of those who never appear in proper handicap chases. Indeed he seems harsh on those running well in what have been good quality handicaps that turn out to have little substance. Mahler Mission and the ridiculous mark for Nassalam spring to mind from this renewal.

    I know it’s not a proper steeplechase now but it purports to be.

    in reply to: Kellermann #1690689
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    Half brother to useful chaser Perceval Legallois. RIP.

    in reply to: Moonlighter #1690516
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    Sorry to see this. Was pretty useful at one stage when with Nick Williams.

    in reply to: Grand National 2024 #1690513
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    Haven’t yet seen the exits at the Chair from a better angle but it looked like Mr Incredible’s unseat was from being hampered. I’d like to have seen how he’d have done at the finish.

    in reply to: Grand National – marks out of 10 #1690510
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    The race itself about 6. Held interest most of the way and the winner is very good. He wouldn’t have made the second circuit 12 years ago but if we want flimsy obstacles there you are.

    4pm start was better.

    A depressing outcome in terms of who grabbed the over bloated spoils. If the Jockey Club need to reduce prize money start with this. If some decide they wont take part if there’s a reduction I don’t care.

    StIll too much dead wood from the big stables.

    If there’s one tradition I’d like to see gone it’s the early announcement of the weights.

    in reply to: Corach and others #1690507
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    Party Politics went early one year.

    in reply to: Grand National 2024 #1690250
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    I wanted to find a way of justifying support for Eklat De Rire but failed. Shame, as a horse by Saddex out of Rochdale would suit me to a tee.I think Peter Davies might leave him him over here to see if Venetia can get something out of him in veterans races. (Idle speculation).

    I’ve thrown a few coppers at Glengouly and Bartlett’s pair though even Willie doesn’t sound hopeful about Stattler.

    Free bets on Corach Rambler,Vanillier and Galia des Liteaux

    in reply to: Grand National 2024 #1688451
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    In relation to Fury Road, yes he does appear to be a blocker. I was surprised that he was still a good horse a year ago though, fair effort in the Ryanair. His fall in the GN seems to have precipitated the dismal form but it seems this is just the right race to run him in. Perhaps the O’Leary’s would point to Balko Des Flos as an example of what’s possible after they’ve flogged one

    in reply to: Rouge Autumn (early 70’s jumper) #1688423
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    The McKenzie and Selby comments were rarely very generous about old horses that had done their bit. Well done to Rouge Autumn for completing in the Topham, probably still a bit of an achievement then.

    in reply to: Five runners #1688421
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    Although it’s good to get some classy horses running I don’t think attracting the best horses should be what this race is about. Look at some flat races with big fields, the Cesarewitch or Cambridgeshire perhaps. Certainly decent quality but rarely top drawer.

    If the visiting public are racegoers or interested tv viewers they should expect to see a good few horses that have been running on home courses. Qualifying races should perhaps be prescribed and highlighted to deter the seldom seen types who may have mopped up the odd placing behind something good in a novice or beginners

    in reply to: Five runners #1688340
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    The bigger problem for me has been the number of horses running in the same silks rather than from what yard they come from. The prize money for the race was boosted some years back and has not made it a better race. Halving of prize money may just deter throwing so many darts.

    The failure of top British trainers to establish middling quality staying chasers from plenty of promising novices is another matter. I think the concentration of larger strings is anti competitive and I’d contend plenty of them would be better off in smaller set ups. Henderson said he has to keep Seven Barrows choc a bloc to make it pay. It doesn’t seem a good model

    in reply to: Five runners #1688336
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    I’ve never understood the desire to attract the best quality horses. Occasionally it has concerned some top class horses but not as a rule.
    Halve the prize money, pay down to the first six only.See if we get such a multiplicity of entries from the usual sources after that.

    in reply to: Was this even worse than Merchants Friend in 2004? #1687593
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    I recall that one. Had a little e/w on Maximize and nearing the home turn just hoped he might overhaul a couple in front of him to reach the frame. Was desperately sorry for Merchants Friend

    in reply to: Mr Bates v The Post Office #1687589
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    Gamble, I suspect I shouldn’t be laughing but your anthropomorphic 737 flight of fancy, 737Maxine had me convulsing. Masterly prose sir.

    in reply to: Grand National 2024 #1682031
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    I know Cromwell regards bringing horses to Britain as getting money for old rope. I don’t understand why the handicapper should be so accommodating for him. It seems Vanillier’s mark was 152 following his 2nd last year. The trainer has chosen to run him in races not suited to his talents this season. Nothing very shrewd about that IMHO but the handicapper has been dull enough to knock a pound off :negative: .

    I should think Ronnie Bartlett is pleased with the handicapper although Dusart looks like a token Hendo entry.

    I’ll part with a few bob on Glengouly if he’s there on the day but not before

    in reply to: King George 2023 #1674883
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    The Nicholls runners did not perform well yesterday. I like Bravemansgame but too many doubts now.

    in reply to: Norman Williamson – underrated or real top class? #1674881
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    He seemed to be towards the elite end of riders without being quite at the pinnacle. I think he came over and joined an in decline John Edwards.

    He seemed to fall foul in relations and conduct with some. Apart from Bailey he lost the ride on Looks Like Trouble and I recall some indiscretion meant Jimmy McCarthy deputised on Decoupage to win the Tote Gold Trophy.

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