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What do you think of Nigel Farage and the prospect of a Reform government?
Value Is EverythingI’ve adapted XTC’s classic “Making Plans For Nigel”.
Reform is making plans, for Nigel.
He only wants what’s best, for him.
They’re only making plans for Nigel.
Nigel just needs that helping hand…
From Kru-gerrrrrrr….And if young Nigel says he’s happy.
He must be happy.
He must be happy.
He must be happy in his world.Nigel is outspoken and he likes to speak.
And loves to be – spoken to (in his world)
Nigel is happy in his world (in his own world)
Nigel is happy in his world (it’s his own world)Reform is making plans for Nigel
He has his future in a Channel deal
They’re only making plans for Nigel
Nigel’s whole future is as good as sealed,
yeeeeeee-ahBut the people of Britain will see
He’s only attract-ing right wing MP’s
So if young Nigel says he’s happy
He won’t be happy…
He won’t be happy…
He won’t be happy for ve-ry long.(When is the poetry competition?)
Value Is EverythingExcellent effort, Ginge. 😂
You got one line wrong, though: He only wants what’s best for him.
As Bob Marley sang,
Exodus movement of Jah people..
Last one to leave please turn the lights out.Why associate a fantastic tune to such a talentless waste of space , if people think things are bad now wait until farage has a go , Tories mk2 with 30p Lee in cabinet , we,d be bankrupt financially and morally within 6 months , still he’s bound to implode before then , there’s no way Farage isn’t f#cking up before then , has agreed to show his tax returns yet….
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My ex has studied the Reform manifesto. He said he can soon shut up the Reform supporters ( of which there are many unfortunately) by informing them what Reform really stand for. I don’t know what I would do if they were elected. I probably won’t be around anyway ( the only plus side of being old) but I fear for my children and grandchildren. I find it all terribly depressing. How can a party with such few MPs be regarded as the next government? All they have going for them is having the snake oil salesman that is Farage as their leader. I mean, a party whose members include the millionaire Tice who spends half his time in Dubai, Ann Widdecombe and Nadine Dorries. It’s a very scary self fulfilling prophecy in that the electorate are being told that Reform are going to form the next government but they consist mostly of ex Conservatives ( apart from Lee who has been in how many parties?). They’ve already been exposed by Ch 4 News as being racist. I can’t believe that I now look back nostalgically at the days when we had Conservative governments which contained decent people like Ken Clark and Dominic Grieve. If working class people really think that Reform are in it for them they’re in for a big shock.
Reform are bankrolled by Musk and the like, so they’re everywhere.
And, as we all know, billionaires have the interests of the common man at heart.
My ex has studied the Reform manifesto. He said he can soon shut up the Reform supporters ( of which there are many unfortunately) by informing them what Reform really stand for
Which begs the question: why aren’t Labour, Liberals, Greens, SNP, centrist Conservatives (are there any left) doing just that?
Moaning about how dreadful Reform are is easy, countering their narrative with constructive alternatives shouldn’t be too taxing either but they seem unable – or unwilling – to do it. The same applies to the failure of the seemingly all-but-moribund Democrats in the USA to constructively oppose Trump
Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing
I think Gavin Newsom is doing a good job in America. Fingers crossed that he will be the next president. But why oh why didn’t the Democrats choose him last time?
Trump will go to war come his last year …. So he can argue to stay on as President … Seriously Trump wants his family to be the new Kennedys …
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Yes, there are some centrist “One Nation” Conservatives left, Drone. Right here.
Tbh Even I was (for a very short spell) considering whether I should vote Reform next time. Just as many ex-Labour voters are. I’d like to “stop the boats” and both Labour and Conservatives have both failed on that score. However, there are doubts Reform would do any better. Can’t see them getting a deal with France and / or the EU…
But the thing that’s made me totally rule out voting for Reform is the type of Conservative MP defecting to them. They’re all from the Right, those who I didn’t want in the Conservative Party in the first place. Before moving to Somerset, Danny Kruger was my MP and I didn’t like him then.
Kemi doesn’t seem to be doing anything and may well be replaced by Jenrick before the next election. Jenrick would be worse, too far to the Right for me to vote Tory. That said, if it came to a choice between Jenrick and Farage I’d choose Jenrick. But I can’t see the Conservative Party recovering soon.
We don’t have a centre party anymore. Even the Liberals seem to be more Left than the Labour Party these days.
The time is surely right for a new Centrist Party, maybe led by Rory Stewart?
Value Is EverythingAlas Rory Stewart has just lost his greatest fan. Me. He was so spiteful ( and spiteful is the only word I can think to describe his comments) about Keir the other day on TRIP that I’ve decided he’s just another rich public school Conservative. Mike, who is LibDems says he’s been really nasty about Ed Davey in the past, too. I’m sure he won’t be losing sleep over it although I have messaged TRIP and told them what I think which, luckily for them is a watered down version. As for the Conservatives instead of trying to be Reform they may as well have just offered Farage the leadership which would at least have saved their MP’s the bother of having to defect to Reform in dribs and drabs.
HDLG says
Trump will go to war come his last year …. So he can argue to stay on as President … Seriously Trump wants his family to be the new Kennedys …
What makes you think he’ll see his last year of office.
His face drooping suggest to me, a stroke.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.One guy I met was telling me nigel was a man of the people to which I said he is a feckin arsehole and how many guys does he know who are called nigel and stay in a £1m flat in Mayfair bankrolled by folk outside of the UK. The delusion of folk thinking he is in any way a solution is mind-boggling. As totally bonkers as those seeing trump as a sane leader.Their policies are just fantasy with no vestige of reality. Having said that this must be the worst bunch of politicians in my lifetime and unfortunately this has led to the farcical situation to the tories being replaced by other public school boys with utterly no knowledge of running a bath. God help us if they get in.
Firstly to answer the question, if you’re not somewhere between seriously concerned and absolutely terrified of the idea of a Reform government then you aren’t paying attention. As has been said, they are no friend of the working class, or indeed any other class below the ultra wealthy. On current evidence the economic meltdown alone would have us harking back to the days of Truss and Kwarteng. ‘We’re different’ they cry whilst simultaneously filling the party with the dregs of the party that has a large part in dragging us into this mess.
To address a couple of points raised, Drone mentions the inability or unwillingness to challenge them as have I elsewhere in this organ. This is particularly galling. It’s a piece of cake as was shown when Farage visited the USA recently to discuss ‘free speech’ (another term that’s lost all meaning but I digress). He was absolutely demolished by one of the Democrats in short order and had no answer. There have been occasional signs here but not nearly enough. He and his lackeys like Tice get very tetchy when the kid gloves come off.
On ‘One Nation’ Tories, I honestly think they should go back down that route, there’s a gap there but they now so full of headbanging idiots now that they can’t see it. Being Diet Coke Reform isn’t going to cut it. Labour doesn’t have a clue what it is any more, the Reform appeasement won’t work and it has abandoned just about everyone else. There’s a gap on the centre to moderate right begging to be filled.
I keep fantasising about a Conservative Party full of Ken Clark’s, Theresa May, Rory Stewart’s and Tobias Ellwoods! To think that, back in the day I thought they were the devil incarnate. Johnson destroyed his own party ( another politician who working people seemed think was ‘one of them’ and there to help them: as if!). I remember him bringing in Braverman as attorney General so he could bend the rules. I spoke to someone who worked with Farage and he said he’s great to work with, always friendly always available. Alastair Campbell said he’s great to always remembers which football team you support and chats to you about it. If only someone like him would use their great communication skills to actually do good.
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