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The best thing about the place market is the
Lay
button!
Although try not to win too much or Betfair will steal some of it off you.
Plenty on this thread to put into
Nag Me
… thanks!
A few I’ll be looking out for are and who will hopefully improve on what they’ve shown so far are:
Morning Charm
Estourah
Sajjhaa
Libritish
Almaasah
State Opera
Dordogne
Farrh
Ladies are Forever
Burj Nahar
Fox Hunt
ThimaarNo, absolutely not.
You can be a fan of other sports and not bet. You can be a fan of a Horse but, usually, behind the horse is a rich owner and a tweed/silly hat wearing posh-boy and you just should not support that sort of thing.
How many trainspotters go to the station without a pen, notebook, flask and copy of Razzle?
Well **** me sideways!
The Thieves
still operate the Premium Charge and owe me a four figure sum so I will go easy with my praise.
It would be nice if
The Theves
voided all bets placed on their exchange in the last few hours up to the announcement. But they won’t because they are a despicable, corporate monster that ‘legally’ tax people who win too much and care only about their share price.
http://racingpost.newspaperdirect.com/e … 0000001001
Audio. If you can stand the voice, it is fairly interesting.
I realise commentating is a difficult thing to master but surely it’s time for Jim McGrath to shuffle off into retirement.
He called the wrong faller today at Exeter (twice), called the wrong horse finishing fourth and then did his usual thing of predicting rather than commentating and horse A was "grabbed by Horse B now…" when Horse B was actually in the process of falling. The in-running thieves must be puking into their lap-tops.
At least with the BBC’s habit of persevering with commentators (in all sports) that clearly cannot cut it anymore, his contract with them should be safe.
Can anyone think of a worse commentator still employed (now that GG has done the decent thing and packed in)? Even Derek Thompson is better!
I agree with Long Run. Needs 2m4f at least to be shown to best effect, at least in decent company. Whisper it quietly but Nick Mordin said the same thing, too!
I would hardly call getting 0% in year one and 2% in year two "lucky" (unless you have a six-figure salary as your starting point, of course)
The key is spotting an over-priced horse. The market normally gets it right in the end but sometimes it’s just a case of being in the right place at the right time – like last night when Uncle Mo was trading at 5. You need to establish what you think the price should be and act accordingly if the actual price is wildly different. This is not easy for a novice though so good luck – I think you will need it to start with!
Well if that was the case why not own up and say I’ve made a mistake? People are betting bundles on these races.
It’s Royal Ascot not Yarmouth on a Tuesday? Sign of a poor jockey in a job he’s out of his depth.
On the other hand, look at William Buick, class act, fitted in immediately at Gosden’s.
Come one, how many people own up and say they’ve cocked up when they don’t
have
to and draw attention to their own failings? Riding horses, and getting the rides in the first place, is a competitive business and you can’t blame him for not wanting to draw attention to this particular
faux pas
.
Even that idiot football referee David Elleray refused to admit – years later in his autobiography – that he got it wrong and cost Chesterfield an FA Cup final appearance, when it was obvious to anyone watching at the time.
Richard Hills is not my favourite jockey, but he is not the worst either in my opinion. That title belongs to Ahmed Ajtebi who, apart from being unable to judge pace, unbalancing most of his mounts, being overly harsh with his use of the whip on beaten horses, including juveniles, almost always at one point or another during a race appears just about to fall off.
Not sure that he was neccesarily weak in the finish on Elzaam, rather that he thought he had got the race sewn up and got caught napping with no time to recover.
Harry Findlay could invest in this venture. And Barney Curley. Dean McKeown? But under no circumstances must Paul Roy be involved.
Even if reasons can be found to excuse Suroor’s apparent failure with the aforementioned quartet, it’s much harder to defend his role in the demise of the likes of Shamardal, Papineau, Doyen, Carry On Katie, Discreet Cat, Bull Run, Fast Company, Il Warrd, Ibn Khaldun and however many other horses that either failed to go on or were ruined after being acquired from elsewhere.
The amount of equine talent that he’s been unable to harness (either at all or for an appreciable amount of time) is frightening.
Demise of Shamardal?
If you call winning the French Guineas, French Derby and St James Palace a demise then you clearly set the bar high.
Carry on Katie ran to within a lb of her best 2yo form after transfer to bin Suroor. Doyen won the King George in a lifetime best in his care. Fast Company never raced after 2yrs due to injury. Discreet Cat was trained by him in name only but even so, when he was good he was outstanding. Il Warrd recorded several better efforts for bin Suroor than he did for Marcus Tregoning. He won the Racing Post Trophy with Ibn Khaldun and the Ascot Gold Cup with Papineau. I’ll give you the fragile Bull Run, though.
It would be interesting to compare the record of horses who have transferred out of his care (to Mark Johnston for example, and several Dubai based trainers) and see if the stats back up general improvement in such circumstances.
I’m not sure that the curmudgeonly Sir Michael Stoute performed any miracles in those intervening three weeks Fist. In the Derby, Workforce was racing over a more suitable trip, had the run under his belt and, of course, the horse had a problem with his bit in the Dante.
Also, there wasn’t 19 days between the Derby and the King George, there were 49 days.
