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- March 12, 2010 at 08:38 in reply to: William Hill Trophy handicap (Tues) / Kim Muir (Thurs) 2010 #281833
I was really cheesed about the Eider, thought he’d win. He’s definitley high on my list of ones to follow. Thanks for the information.
It’s an interesting concept for me since it fits with the idea that horses have a top level of performance and can only perform within certain limits. In other words it fits with the trends theories and Nick Mordin approach which I find useful in my decision making.
I must find out more.A bit like Cloudy lane, Cloudy Bay ain’t what it used to be either. IMO. Expanded the vineyards too much too quickly but I take your point.

I’d like to have a horse which is just bursting onto the scene, something like the winner of the bumper in Ireland yesterday, First Lieutenant.
Flat wise I’d like a good quality filly which could then be used for breeding to maintain interest for years to come. No real names though.Thanks, in all respects

At the risk of sycophancy, I did well from backing a couple of Cheltenham’s hunter chase tips last week. Can I ask whereabouts on the site wallace put you off a non trier or was that a separate thing?
First Lieutenant looks a right good prospect for Gigginstown. Could be the next War Of Attrition for Mouse possibly?
Fairyhouse p2p bumper up next I’d presume?
Yes it is. This was touted heavily in Ireland and I was lucky enough to get odds against today. It is a real prospect
A series of good wins. WD, hope it continues
David
Nice to see such an open appraisal, thanks. Hope everything goes well for youThe weights look likely to be compressed so trends followers may have to adapt thinking
My favourite betting book by a long way is Against The Crowd by Alan Potts, it changed the way I bet forever. (For the better I might add.)
I also enjoyed reading Nick Mordins Winning Without Thinking and Jon Gibbys Betting on Flat Handicaps.All of these were written in the pre-Exchange days but I never touch the exchanges anyway.
Yes I’m a fan of both Potts books and both Mordin books too. They made me think differently about the game. I also found Always Back Winners (Simpson) a simple and useful read.
That sounds a bit complicated Prufrock, will a non mathematician like me be able to work this out?
It sounds interesting, I may well buy it. How would we apply the information in British racing though when size and weight of the horses are not published?
So wait, regarding Kalahari King – are you saying trainer put everyone away? if so thats a bad thing to say.
There was a long absence of the track but on the grand scheme of things you still had a G1 horse in a handicap.
I take it people were wary of Murphy saying he may need the run? we’ll he may have been working the horse at 80% with the intention of the race bringing him up to 100% for Cheltenham, do you expect the trainer to come out and say yes he’s ready, he should win – if he dont then people will still be saying oh trainers put us away, BLA BLA, horse aint fit bla bla
The odds were there for you to take advantage off, the trainer has done his job, his opinion was that he’ll improve for the run, your opinion should have been horse wouldnt be at the track if unfit, too classy to risk such a dangerous ploy, G1 horse in handicap.
Sorry i cannot accept the comments of Murphy put people away
Whilst accepting your points I think the problem here is the history of the yard. The gambling nature of it means that people don’t trust him whether justified or not.
Hope you don’t mind me joining in. I’ve just done my AP EW Lucky 15, the only combination bet of the year for me.
Menorah
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Tidal BayWho knows?
One or two of the Sherwood horses look like they’ve needed a run recently?
I was brought up near Arthur Stephenson’s yard at Crawleas so he will always be my favourite trainer.
O’ Brien’s record is surely the best even though he did cross over to the other side
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