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  • #267358
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Mon Mome really caught my eye in the Hennessy despite being tailed off and eventually being pulled up.

    Made up my mind there and then I’m backing him for the double. Can’t give him much more weight than the 11 stone he had last year and he won so easily another 10lbs or so wouldn’t have stopped him.

    Cracking looking horse who if was with PN would be half the odds.

    Are you kidding yourself!The handicapper murders Grand National winners,he will carry 11-10 this year No doubt about it,but like many more in the past could still run a place!He is built to carry weight this one! 38 on the machine is to win only though!

    #267383
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    If Mon Mome goes off top weight, I think we might see the mighty return of Comply Or Die into the Aintree winners enclosure.

    #267388
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    Mon Mome really caught my eye in the Hennessy despite being tailed off and eventually being pulled up.

    Made up my mind there and then I’m backing him for the double. Can’t give him much more weight than the 11 stone he had last year and he won so easily another 10lbs or so wouldn’t have stopped him.

    Cracking looking horse who if was with PN would be half the odds.

    Are you kidding yourself!The handicapper murders Grand National winners,he will carry 11-10 this year No doubt about it,but like many more in the past could still run a place!He is built to carry weight this one! 38 on the machine is to win only though!

    10lbs? piece of cake! :P Of course I realise it will be tougher but think he’s got a bit more class than people give him credit for. I just like the way he was travelling early doors in the Hennessy and think he’ll carry weight better than most would.

    #267397
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    He’s also one of those horses who might wake up on National day and say ‘nah; not today!’

    #267497
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    The Hennessey isn’t where I saw that Mon Mome might win it again, it was that hurdle race he ran in.

    I’ve seen Comply Or Die do hurdles seemingly ‘just for the run’ & he faded tamely whereas MM didn’t.

    #267501
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    Mind you, it’s the trainer who says she doesn’t know which Mon Mome will turn up on the day; maybe she tells him. A very canny trainer.

    #267537
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    She says."depends which one turns up on the day" but has a sign on his box saying not to be opened until after Xmas :lol:

    #267545
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    If Mon Mome goes off top weight, I think we might see the mighty return of Comply Or Die into the Aintree winners enclosure.

    Yes i wouldn"t disagree with that,11-4 and Comply is a player!

    #267546
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    She says."depends which one turns up on the day" but has a sign on his box saying not to be opened until after Xmas :lol:

    Miss Venetia will know which one will turn up alright! The one she wants to turn up and it being the Grand National we can guess ourselves there! A 3 mile hurdle race around Plumpton and again its not Rocket Science!Miss Venetia is another trainer who knows how to play the system beautifully and has done so since the days of Lady Rebecca!Not a critiscism,just an observation! I cant remember the last horse of hers i backed mind,long long time ago!

    #267547
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    Announced a few weeks ago that the prize money will be £925,000, so it looks like it is now going up in £25,000 increments, and we won’t get a £1m GN until 2013.

    Because the GN is a week later, I think the entries are as well. Entries close Tuesday Feb 2, and are announced the next day I think.

    Weights are announced a fortnight after that, so that means that this season the Red Square Blue Vodka race at Haydock is before the weights, instead of after.[/color:1k4sqr16] This will probably affect the quantity/quality of this race.

    First races after the weights are out are the Veterans’ Chase at Donny, the RP Chase, the Eider and the Bobbyjo.

    Not quite correct:

    Entries are Feb 2nd & the ratings used for qualification are those published Feb 2nd with the actual weights published Feb 18th. The Red Square Haydock race is Feb 20th, after the weights are published (as is The eider on feb 27th)

    #267665
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    All this talk of Mon Mome has got me thinking. When I looked at the form before the 2009 GN, I thought he looked pretty good (I think any horse that has got all the way round once, is already half way there) which begs the question:

    Why did he go off at 100/1? (not that I’m complaining!)

    #267692
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    Because he ran 2 absolute shockers before Aintree.

    He was still a trends fit though, but I didn’t back him.

    #267697
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    He just slipped off my radar screen. Was the first horse that I backed ante post at 33/1. There was an excuse for his run the previous year. His run in the Midlands National was pretty bad and I felt it was too close to the National [tend to think that Midlands National horses are more likely to go for the Scottish]. Then his weight started to creep up. Why I didn’t back him again at 100/1 I’ll never know, but I was working that morning and just thought he wouldn’t even run. Felt as if I’d lost £20 and found a fiver.

    #267704
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    Scarp the gold cup nonsense and lets see Denmen and Kauto Star go head to head over the big fences. These are supposed to be the best chasers yet the greatest prize in steeplechasing is one they shun.

    Come on Mr Nichols, lets see if you have real steeple chasers in your yard…..

    #267718
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    Because he ran 2 absolute shockers before Aintree.

    I thought he ran quite well in the Blue Square – he was still in touch with half-a-mile or so to go.

    One thing that I found funny after the National, was that on the Midlands National day TAPK wrote a rant slagging off Miss Williams for not saying anything worthwhile on C4’s Morning Line, or words to that effect. However, when asked about Mon Mome, she did say it depended upon how he felt; given that, one could have glossed over that run.

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    Announced a few weeks ago that the prize money will be £925,000, so it looks like it is now going up in £25,000 increments, and we won’t get a £1m GN until 2013.

    Because the GN is a week later, I think the entries are as well. Entries close Tuesday Feb 2, and are announced the next day I think.

    Weights are announced a fortnight after that, so that means that this season the Red Square Blue Vodka race at Haydock is before the weights, instead of after.[/color:3q18z4uy] This will probably affect the quantity/quality of this race.

    First races after the weights are out are the Veterans’ Chase at Donny, the RP Chase, the Eider and the Bobbyjo.

    Not quite correct:

    Entries are Feb 2nd & the ratings used for qualification are those published Feb 2nd with the actual weights published Feb 18th. The Red Square Haydock race is Feb 20th, after the weights are published (as is The eider on feb 27th)

    Phil Smith is announcing the weights the week beginning Monday 15th Feb, but I’m not sure whether it is that day, Tuesday or Wednesday.

    Surely he uses all the information available up to that weekend?

    I wrote that this would spoil the Blue Square, but I’m now finding it exciting in a different way, because for the horses rated in the 130s it turns the race into a Win and You’re In race.

    #267725
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    Not sure what you mean Gerald.

    Weights will be published at the weights lunch on 18th Feb. Two days later the Haydock race will be run.

    Performance in theHaydock race will have no effect on the National weights.

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