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Sorry Corm!
Just noticed this. Missed the deadline but here are my efforts anyway
Torres – 3
Van Nistelrooy -3
Ballack -2
Van Persie& Larrson????
Nice over view David!
Had an interest in Van Nislelrooy and Holland to win.
Now that he is back in favour with something to prove you never know.
Torres also interest me.
Good Luck!
In 21st Century Britain, opposition parties don’t win elections – encumbent ruling parties lose them.
That’s why the Tory’s are doing so well in the polls, despite a patent lack of measurable policy. All they need is rhetoric that demands change – the incompetence of the Government will win the election for them.
Political ideas and ideology are consigned to the dustbin of the 20th Century. It is all merely shades of centre-right these days, whether it is packaged as New Labour or Conservative.
All an election decides is who gets to manage that centre-right agenda.
Some democracy.
Marb, you keep rattling-on about Gordon Brown and his "socialist" policies.
I suggest you a) go and look-up what ‘Socialism’ means, b) take another look at Brown’s economic policy during his long years as Chancellor. If you can show me the areas where the two merge, I would be most grateful.
Grassy is spot on and makes my point far better than I. Its not that the Tories and Cameron are doing well. Its more Labour are becoming so unpopular and public perception makes Cameron look much better than he is.
There is no proof that Cameron and the Tories would do any better in the next government than Labour as there are no policies on which to make such a judgement. Its like backing a horse with no form. There is also little evidence that the Tories would have done much different from Labour on the big decisions in the past i.e. only the Liberals might have kept us out Iraq. I am pretty sure that once the Tories try to implement a set policy on the major issues they will come apart at the seams.
I find it breath taking that people can only remember as far back than yesterday’s Sun headlines. Maybe lucky not to remember the 16% mortgage rates (shocker that) and winters of discontent etc
I am not an apologist for the Labour party or a Liberal. However it appears to me the only party that is and has been consistant all along and offers a real prospect of change is the Liberals.
I don’t really want to get involved in a political debate. Spending less time on here now and only popped in to read up on horse racing. It just seems to much one way traffic on this thread so here is my tuppence worth.
How has the Tory party changed under Cameron? With no policies how do we know? The only change is Cameron now in charge everyone else who was there is still there, just stifled for now. Cameron has made a better job of shutting up all his liabilities. I think that Headcases programme has Cameron spot on. I also find it disagreeable that local elections which should be voted on with regards to local issues are so heavily tainted by national politics.
As far as I remember we do not have US style Presidents. The party and their policies are supposed to be what matters. Even through the press only want to focus on the party leaders. Maybe coming close to an election some of the press might start asking the difficult questions like OK give us a clue what your policies are on anything. I think the wheels will come of the bandwagon pretty quickly when for instance Cameron puts forward his policy on Europe
What the Tory party has done is nothing really but sit on the fence. They have just let the press hounds bite away at labour to bring them down. The public distaste for Iraq and dislike for Blair is the main reasons Labour is doing badly and the Tories are doing better. Even though a Tory PM would have made exactly the same decision to go to war in Iraq as Blair did. The second main reason is the global credit crunch hiiting people where it hurts. Even though the UK might actually come out of this OK despite the press hype talking us into a recession
The same this is happening in Scotland though the SNP not Tories are benefiting. Scotland will not accept a Tory government and if the Tories win the next election then independence for Scotland and the break up of the UK will probably be only a few years down the line.
Must go and lie down now
"Don’t stick your neck out, what exactly do we know, The top 3 ain’t run since 2 (we know squat)"
Think UN has a very good point here. Have hardly looked at the race but will be backing somthing that has had a recent run. Probably Raven’s Pass and/or Stimulation e/w.
Good luck!
Labelthou 12;30
Group Captain 1;05
Pabli Du Charmil 1;40
Five Dream 2;15
The Tother One 2;50
Exotic Dancer 3;30
Drombeag 4;05
Hasty Prince 4:40
Wingman 5:20Good Luck All!
I also hope and think Inglis Drever will win.
Have had an each way bet on Hardy Eustace just for fun. Thought that 2nd to Loch Derg was a good run. LD stole the race and I know the connections were dissapointed thinking HE did not stay. LDs later performances have suggested otherwise. Thats the first three for me. Easy this game isnt it?
Good luck All!
12:30 Beantown
1:05 Alberta’s Run
1:40 Big Bucks
2:20 Master Minded
2:55 Our Vic
3:30 Hardy Eustace
4:05 Lucifer Bleu
4:40 Miko de Beauchene
5:15 Whispered Secret
5;50 Big Eared FranGood Luck All!
PSML Alderbrook!
From what I have seen there appears a considerable amount of damage to the tentage, debris lying about and unstable structures. Something Huntington clearly does not have to worry about. With the high winds still ongoing it would have been negligent to race. 60,000 people crammed into such an area would have been a recipe for disaster and the race course would have been liable for any injuries. They need time to clear up and ensure the structiures are safe.While some may think that racing as normal is a risk worth taking clearly the risk is not theirs to take and is really with the racecourse and their insurers.
Nineteen races over the next two days is a stunning proposition.
Sentry Duty 2:00
Tidal Bay 2:35
Osana 3:15
Ollie Magern 4:00
Heads on the Ground 4;40
Chapoturgeon 5:20Good Luck All!
Years ago as a horse racing obsessed teenager my good old dad asked me to put on a bet for him. £5 on Eboneezersdouble 40/1 shot in a 4 horse race. Whatever I decided that it had no chance and didn’t put the bet on.
Dohhhhhhhhhhhh!
You can guess what happened. It was not pretty and a lesson hard learned!Aye Colin!
Most people study the form of a race and then make a decision. It appears Zoso just looks for ong odds on favs to get beat (decision) and then looks at the form to blindly make a case for defeat. One or two long odds on favs will occasionally loose. That is not skill. Thats luck and another example of mug punting.
All that tripe about Denman to finnish 3rd, lay of the decade and the case for CG as fav etc!!!
If Denman had been beaten (or if one of these odds on favs lays wins) I am sure we would be treated to an impressive bravado of I told you so.There are many knowledgable skilled readers of form on this forum who will find this approach ridiculous.
When you are in a hole you should stop digging.
Think this thread should be retitiled "Zosomania came to his end today"
Barry’s bismark as well!
Madness in my opinion Zoso! Have you been on the whacky baccie lately?
I just don’t see how you can be so confident and take such an extreme postition. In my book Denman will hack up. As someone else says horses make fools of us all the time. Best of luck to you whatever.
No bet race for me and one to enjoy.
You can guess what happened. It was not pretty and a lesson hard learned!