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Hey GR hope you’re well. I started a ‘lay system’ on here MANY years ago called Mug Punter. The concept is, that you ‘create’ a fictional mug punter & then lay his/her picks. So – let’s suppose your MP decides to back every odds on fav and with increasing stakes (a typical MP mistake), you would simply lay the same. It can be tricky to get your head around because you increase stakes when you have WON ie when your MP has lost.
So create a backing system that has no chance of success & lay it. Good luck!.
Suspect he’s not a prat but an overacting player yes, guilty as charged. Sadly, however, he is far from being the only one; witness the ‘spinning top’ David Lopez for Brighton against Newcastle – ludicrous. In defense of JW he does seem just to want sympathy, lying there as though gunshot, rather than squirming and clutching, trying to get an opponent carded.
I know you’re having a rough trot at the moment V t C but nevertheless you ARE still showing a profit. At the end of the day that is what it’s all about. No system will have any pattern or consistency – just gonna have to ride out the storm I reckon!

Another winner Factorman – well done!

Hi V t C
an excellent result and one which will keep you nicely in front for a while – even if nothing else obliges.
Keep up the good work!
Hi V t C.
Good luck with this. i know you didn’t intend there to be any method in your madness, but just maybe there is. Maybe connections who detect some ability will deliberately name one of their charges after a horse of yesteryear?
Anyway profitable so far, certainly at level win or e/w stakes.
Watching with interest
Good god!! Was that really over 7 years ago? It was a boom time for the systems forum in general and for certain threads in particular.
Robotica’s ‘One A Day’ would certainly have been one of them, but the rules won’t come to me.
Hells bells you’re lucky that I remember the name Robotica!!!!

Kindest regards to you Matron, you’re an absolute stalwart on this forum and long may you be so, hallo to anyone that remembers me. Fond memories in the main except for the ice baths and the early morning enemas!
Sorry Edward,
I didn’t mean to imply that just because you’d had a loser that you might have given up. I was simply referring to the fact that no new posts had been added. Sorry to hear about the log in probs – hopefully sorted now.
Await the next lay with interest
Hi Edward
Have you given up on this one?
Hi Edward/Lewis
Well done so far with this selection method. Laying is not the ‘easy’ alternative that it seems to be, as I know to my cost only too well!
Watching with interest.
An interesting thread, moreso because i’ve been using something very similar, but
)I’ve been applying the ‘gap’ principle but not the fave price starting point.
Once I have my selection I back the place only.
The logic is this:- Here’s a handicap, a race in which the official handicapper has tried his very best, to make sure that every horse finishes at the same time and yet,
My longest winning run is 11, my longest losing 3.As for the system here, someone gently chastised billion for using oddschecker to check the gap at midmorning. However I must say in his defence, that non runners can make a significant difference to this system and make a new selection, where one didn’t exist before. I personally never finalise a selection, if it is based around price, until after midday for afternoon racing. Of course you can have non runners up to the ‘off’ but the usual raft of non runners are known by half twelve I find.
Hi Mark,
good luck with this.
Your list of rules seems straight forward. What do you need to look at RP for? Seems all your rules could be covered by looking at BF – or have I misunderstood?
And THAT is the bottom line isn’t it Silky?
No pun intended

Profit is what it’s all about and it does seem that you’re making a modest
profit on most days – wishing you continuing success mate
Hi Mark,
good luck with this.
In your 1st post you give an odds range of 1.8 – 4.5, however your last post says 1.7 – 4.5, could you clarify?
I know its only a matter of terminology but I think you’re actually using 5% of bank for the ‘backers stake’ so your liability actually ranges from 4% of bank – 1.8 shot – to 17.5% (when laying a 4.5 shot).
Therefore your losing example would only be correct if you happened to lay at exactly evens.
Good luck again, look forward to next selection
Good luck Ken, will watch with interest and a Happy new year to you.
Hope it’s a prosperous one too

I must be getting old – 400 quid!!??
I bought Clive Holt’s Fineform Formula a nice A5 sized paperback book, cracking read and informative too, for £15

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