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Quote: from barry dennis on 7:39 am on Dec. 4, 2006[br]racing depends on levy,  levy is 10% of bookmakers UK horse-racing profit.
low margins, less profit, less levy as has happened last 2 years eventually no funding so no UK horse-racing.<br>
So for racing to prosper, the bookmakers must make profits? There is something not quite right about that.<br>
cormack15,
on a tangential matter, might it be an idea to set up a section of the forum where people can upload programs and applications that might be of interest to other members (assuming people would be interested in sharing)?
i use excel to a certain extent (betting records, pricing races etc) – its excellent for repetitive calculations… but i know i am vastly underusing its capabilities… i tried a few years back to use it to download from the Post website but couldn’t get round the password! this is mentioned here again and arouses my curiosity anew…
just a suggestion
Quote: from Grimes on 12:17 am on Nov. 27, 2006[br]Meade said he’s never seen a horse like him<br>
<br>Meade just wanted to use the expression Jim Bolger used about Teofilo because he thought it sounded so cool!
Maxilon,<br>I believe in trying to keep it as simple as possible too but…<br>
Quote: from Maxilon 5 on 2:17 pm on Nov. 26, 2006[br]Unless a horse has won over the distance on identical ground, I’ll more than likely throw it out regardless of class/ability.
<br>You mean even if it’s sole rival (a recent distance winner on identical ground!) is, by consensus of ratings, a two stone inferior animal?<br>
Quote: from cormack15 on 1:11 pm on Nov. 26, 2006[br]Why did I think he was ‘flattered by margin of victory last time’? I don’t know.
<br>cormack, it was perfectly ‘valid’ to take that stance – the race in question was at Aintree, a course which often gives rise to exaggerated winning distances.
Quote: from Maxilon 5 on 10:25 am on Nov. 26, 2006[br]After the Holy Trinity of form reading, (Going, Course and Distance) <br>
<br>What happened to class/ability?
The exchange market would suggest Southern Vic won’t be travelling to Newbury (also that 7/2 for the Troytown is from an opening 4s). And the Post has R Walsh jocked up for Cornish Rebel; can only assume he would be riding SV were he running.
(Edited by nore at 7:26 pm on Nov. 23, 2006)
Quote: from davidjohnson on 3:50 pm on Nov. 20, 2006[br]Nore – Has it really taken 5 seasons of seeing Beef or Salmon to come to the conclusion that Beef or Salmon is not a good jumper?
<br>No.
Why does Beef Or Salmon become Mince Or Fishpaste when he races in Britain?
I don’t think its anything to do with travelling or homesickness(!), rather just that, despite being the winner of nine Grade 1 steeplechases, he is not a good jumper.
He gets found out on this score in Britain because the races are run at stronger paces and the courses he has run at have relatively stiff fences. In Ireland they tend to hack around for the best part of three-quarters of a race. A perfect example of this was his first Ericsson/Lexus win, rerun on ATR last week, where virtually the entire field was still in contention (almost on the bridle) between the last two fences.
clive,
The busy days are Wednesday (Plate), Thursday (Hurdle) and the Friday evening meeting has become increasingly popular in recent years (probably due to the influx of bank holiday weekenders). So if you want a bit of comfort avoid those days.
Sunday would probably be of interest to an English punter… See another of the cross-‘Sea raiders plunder the big 7f handicap!
The Radisson Hotel is craic central apparently. So if you could bag an early booking of a room there you would be nicely set up. Otherwise commute from Castlebar as I did one year recently!<br>
A 5yo most likely. Hardly a new trend, the progressively younger age at which horses are ‘peaking’ at chasing, but becoming ever more the norm. Another 6yo winner of the Paddy Power Gold Cup. Two recent Hennessy winners of the same age, two placed last year and a 5yo fav this term. How long before we have a 6yo winner of the Cheltenham Gold Cup? Or a 7yo winner of the National?
I have to offer a dissenting voice amidst the general acclaim for McIlvanney. Far too verbose. He will never simply, ‘wake up in the morning’, when he can ‘wake up abruptly in the damp, grey morning’.<br>[br]<br>Admittedly his (over)use of adjectives and adverbs is a little more descriptive and discursive than my example, but I can rarely bear it long enough to get his point.<br>[br]I enjoyed Rebecca Cassidy’s ‘study’ of Newmarket, recommended in a similiar thread by AP (no doubt David Ashforth’s book is also excellent; even less doubt that I will read it soon). Currently reading Barney Curley’s book; the ‘unreliable narrator’ indeed.
Quote: from rory on 8:21 pm on Oct. 11, 2006[br]A Fine Place to Daydream is written by Bill Barich. It’s a good read, but he does make one or two factual blunders.<br>
<br>One of the funniest of which is when he refers to the Oil Chase at Clonmel. This race, coming up in a few weeks, has gained in stature in recent years due to winners such as Beef Or salmon and War Of Attrition. <br>[br]It is, of course, sponsored by a local company called ‘Clonmel Oil’. Conscious, as a writer, about repetition, Barich apparently couldn’t bring himself to refer to ‘the Clonmel Oil Chase at Clonmel’, going instead for ‘the Oil Chase at Clonmel’. <br>[br]Easy be smart about it but I thought that was funny.
Quote: from reet hard on 6:14 pm on Oct. 17, 2006[br] Why not just take account of the things that really (imo, of course) make a difference, such as class, fitness,  and ability under the circumstances? <br>Racing and betting is full of people who believe the only way to achieve an edge is to dot every ‘i’ and cross every ‘t’, yet the reality is the more they get away from the basics, the less their chance of consistently finding winners.<br>
<br>Well said, reet hard… Its the kind of basic stuff that we all need reminding of every now and then… Couldn’t agree more
