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  • #445
    Happy JackHappy Jack
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    Grassy – it’s all HERE

    #30941
    marko
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    Royal Auclair (FR)  P. F. Nicholls  11st 12lb<br>Cornish Rebel (IRE)  P. F. Nicholls  11st 12lb<br>Wild Passion (GER)  N. Meade  11st 11lb<br>Star de Mohaison (FR)  P. F. Nicholls  11st 11lb<br>Neptune Collonges (FR)  P. F. Nicholls  11st 10lb<br>Innox (FR)  F. Doumen  11st 10lb<br>My Will (FR)   P. F. Nicholls  11st 9lb<br>Fundamentalist (IRE)  N. A. Twiston-Davies  11st 9lb<br>Southern Vic (IRE)  T. M. Walsh  11st 8lb<br>Ollie Magern  N. A. Twiston-Davies  11st 6lb<br>Halcon Genelardais (FR)  A. King  11st 6lb<br>Eurotrek (IRE)  P. F. Nicholls  11st 6lb<br>State of Play  Evan Williams  11st 4lb<br>Turpin Green (IRE)  N. G. Richards  11st 4lb<br>Iris’s Gift  Jonjo O’Neill  11st 3lb<br>Commercial Flyer (IRE)  D. E. Pipe  11st 3lb<br>Kelami (FR)  F. Doumen  11st 3lb<br>Idle Talk (IRE)  T. R. George  11st 3lb<br>Copsale Lad  N. J. Henderson  11st 2lb<br>Montgermont (FR)  C. R. Egerton  11st 2lb<br>Juveigneur (FR)  N. J. Henderson  11st 1lb<br>Ross Comm  Mrs S. J. Smith  11st 0lb<br>All In The Stars (IRE)  D. P. Keane  11st 0lb<br>Ardaghey (IRE)  N. A. Twiston-Davies  11st 0lb<br>Ladalko (FR)  P. F. Nicholls  10st 13lb<br>Zabenz (NZ)  P. J. Hobbs  10st 13lb<br>Bothar Na (IRE)  W. P. Mullins  10st 13lb<br>Graphic Approach (IRE)  C. R. Egerton  10st 12lb<br>Run For Paddy  Carl Llewellyn  10st 12lb<br>Baron Windrush  N. A. Twiston-Davies  10st 11lb<br>Napolitain (FR)  P. F. Nicholls  10st 10lb<br>Presenting Express (IRE)  Miss E. C. Lavelle  10st 10lb<br>Bannow Strand (IRE)  D. E. Pipe  10st 9lb<br>Keltic Bard  C. J. Mann  10st 9lb<br>Puntal (FR)  D. E. Pipe  10st 7lb<br>Vodka Bleu (FR)  D. E. Pipe  10st 7lb<br>Kasthari (IRE)  J. Howard Johnson  10st 6lb<br>Preacher Boy  R. J. Hodges  10st 6lb<br>Parsons Legacy (IRE)  P. J. Hobbs  10st 5lb<br>Distant Thunder (IRE)  Noel T. Chance  10st 4lb<br>Solar System (IRE)  T. J. Taaffe  10st 3lb<br>Omni Cosmo Touch (USA)  Mrs S. J. Smith  10st 0lb<br>Homer Wells (IRE)  W. P. Mullins  10st 0lb<br>Roman Ark  J. M. Jefferson  9st 13lb<br>Nadover (FR)  C. J. Mann  9st 11lb<br>Lou du Moulin Mas (FR)  P. F. Nicholls  9st 11lb<br>

    #30942
    dave 22
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    2 horses stand out to me, state of play, and lou du moulin mas. state of play should still be improving and is not exposed, and lou du moulin mas had a confidence booster over hurdles, has had a wind operation and has a very good weight.

    #30943
    FlatSeasonLoverFlatSeasonLover
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    3 of my tote ten to follow still in then: Star De Mohaison, Eurotrek and Halcon Genelardais. I still can’t help thinking that Eurotrek is a serious tool. Be interesting to see how "potential superstar" Commercial Flyer gets on.

    #30944
    apracing
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    <br>Grasshopper,

    Just talked to a friend who had a tour of the Tom George yard this morning and was told that Idle Talk isn’t a definite runner and won’t be considered unless we have a fair bit of rain.

    AP

    #30945
    aston
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    IMO, Idle Talk needs a better pilot. Not a big fan of Maguire. Ruby was the difference on Sat.

    #30946
    aston
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    It doesnt look like a particularly strong Henessey to me. The one that interests me most is Southern Vic. He was impressive in his pipe opener over a distance of 2m which is way too short for him. Although I did read that Ted Walsh will only send him if it is quite testing.

    #30947
    davidjohnson
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    I thought the difference was that Ruby had the luxury of being able to sit off the pace. Idle Talk is a front runner that jumps so well that by reigning him in at every fence, you’ll waste the ground he gains in the air at each obstacle. He’s very much in the mould of Tom George’s other staying handicapper Lord of Illusion.  Idle Talk ran an absolute cracker. He soon had Take The Stand beaten off and then put Model Son to the sword after that had taken him on, no real surprise that he was unable to hold My Will at the death.<br>

    #30948
    seabird
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    Much as I lke the horse, Idle Talk, because of the way that he runs and his apparent lack of acceleration, is always going to be a bit of a sitting duck for a horse with a turn of foot.

    I do hope he can prove me wrong.

    Colin

    #30949
    Salselon
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    Ruby was worth at least 2 lengths on the run in last Saturday. The momentum and rythym he had on My Will compared to the jockey of Idle talk was astonishing.

    #30950
    aston
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    My point exactly. Maguire didnt seem fluent even though the horse gave him every chacne with the better leap at the last. He had to change his whip also, which you never like seeing in the run in of a 3m3 race. McCoy wouldnt have been passed.

    #30951
    dave 22
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    this sort of thing really annoys me, most people who criticize jockeys have never sat on a horse, let alone jumped one, and have very little idea of what skill is actually required. and as for not being able to pass mccoy, rubish. the horse gave his all, and my will just had abit left in the tank. i bet you backed idle talk and thats why your bitter!

    #30952
    dave 22
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    i just think people put far to much blame on jockeys. my opinion is that the best horse on the day usually wins, and i exept there are some hard luck stories and that some jockeys are stronger in different areas than other jockeys, but at the end of the day there isnt that much in them. otherwise they wouldnt be doing the job!

    #30953
    Aragorn
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    Couldn’t disagree more, Ruby Walsh does ride the best horses but there’s a very good reason, because he’s proven how good he is and therefore the top owners and trainers will always want to use him.. You don’t get 30% strike rates just by riding the best horses..

    To me a good jockey will never lose races he shouldn’t, a bad jock will lose races they should win. Thats the difference

    #30954
    aston
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    Yes, I did back Idle Talk. And there is a gulf between the top 8-10 jocks and the rest, so your talking b*****ks
    . It is very plain to see.<br>For what its worth I have both sat and jumped on a horse, not that it matters a jot to the argument.

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