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The bookies must have some info on too darn hot as surely if he wins well in the Dante then he will be favourite. The problem everybody has is that aidens trial winners were on soft going and the Derby may be on good or better ground. We know both sir dragonet and Antony van dyck will be running on in the Derby. Antony van dyck was my fancy last year and I think he will be right there at the finished. He stayed really well at lingfield and was always travelling well. Looks like the ideal Derby type.
Too Darn Hot positive in the market for the Dante
looks like its game on for himGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
Too darn hot 6/4 which for last year’s top juvenile is a strange price. Surely if all is great then he should be 6/4 on. With doubts over Japan I am see the first two getting beaten. The good to firm going should make it a bit unpredictable. On form tdh should skoosh it but the fact that Aiden is 2/1 on with some bookies to win the Derby says there aren’t confident of tdh chances. Time will tell. It could be Aiden is 2,3,4,5 as he was behind sea the stars. By Thursday evening we should be a lot clearer.
Agree Mickeyjp
TDH was suppose to go greenham/guineas so his season has been a no show so far and its a big jump in distance for his first outing compared to that of a greenham. The bookies are not giving too much away I don’t think and the odds will change one way or another after ThursdayGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
If this race was over a mile TDH would be 4/7 or shorter. If this race was over 7furlongs he’d be 1/3, but it’s not and 6/4 is priced with the obvious question marks there for all of us to see. He hasn’t exactly screamed out to me as a 1m2 horse, especially on seasonal reappearance. Add in the fact he had a slight setback, i don’t think 6/4 is that strange a price.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!My only worry with too darn hot staying the 1m2 will be if he settles, he pulled quite hard for a couple of furlongs in the Dewhurst
But then again he did look outpaced 2 furlongs out before powering away from them , which would suggest he will have no problem staying
Iv backed Japan for the derby so hoping for a good run if he turns up on thursday
The distance concern for TDH is a myth on pedigree. Too Darn Hot is a full-brother to those very talented fillies So Mi Dar and Lah Ti Dar. So Mi Dar never tackled a distance shorter than a mile and a quarter after the age of two, while Lah Ti Dar is unbeaten in three starts from 10 to 12 furlongs.
If anything it’s the 2000 guineas he would’ve been more vulnerable.
Add to that Too Darn Hot also represents the remarkable Dubawi-Singspiel cross which had produced 10 black-type winners from a total of only 30 foals. With the Group 1 winners Left Hand and Wuheida and Group 2 winner Old Persian among them. Left Hand’s group victories came over 10 and 12 furlongs, while Old Persian’s Group 2 successes were both gained over a mile and a half.
Wont be the distance that beats him I imagine it’ll be a lack of sharpness and/or fitness first time out.
A myth of pedigree perhaps Mike, but if you watch through some of his 2yo runs, it would be a slight worry.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!I can’t find the quote, but didn’t even JG say something about doubting his chances of staying the Derby distance based on the way he runs?
I can’t for the life of me understand why Line of Duty is so weak in this? Is there a question on ground maybe? His 2 group wins were on GS.
It’s competitive Frenchy. Surfman been hyped. TDH the best 2yo last year. AOB ruling the Derby trials so far. Telecaster as well.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!It’s a great looking race for sure, can’t wait for it. I’m still happy to take the odds if they keep drifting and maybe some more for the Derby. Come on Line of Duty!
JG just said he’d have liked 10 more days on Too Darn Hot, I wonder what we read into that?!
it’s hard to get excited by this years Derby, doesn’t seem that Ballydoyle themselves know who is there number one contender and who knows what will happen with Too Darn Hot tomorrow, I backed Line Of Duty at 25/1 during the winter so hoping for a good run in the Dante but it could be the race throws up more questions than answers.
The ante post markets before the season started suggested they felt Japan was the best of the lot, went from 20/1 to 8/1 without hitting the track
But he has clearly had some problems
Be interesting to see how he runs tomorrow
A staying on second to too darn hot would make me happy as an ante post backer
JG said in an interview this was the only available race left for him after he missed the greenham and the guineas. He also said they would decide whether it was derby or at James palace next so obviously they have no idea if too darn hot will stay. What chance have the punters got when the trainer has no idea. Sounds like it’s unlikely he will stay to be honest which leaves the Dante wide open although tdh could win the Dante but not stay the 12f of the derby. Line of duty probably the value bet in the Dante imho.
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