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This thread will be helpful tomorrow, thanks
Noel Meade seems quite confident that Jered will run a good race on good to soft ground.
All is not lost.

Just out of interest why would you fancy Jered ,when AP has the pick of 2 and goes for the Fav ?
It is possible for the apparent stable second string to win a race. What if AP had the pick of every single horse in the race? He’s still pick Binocular (anybody would), but should we not back anything against him because of that?
14/1 Ungaro looks a good e/w bet to me, conditions should suit him well and this seems to have been his target from a long way back.
I’m not sure exactly what you are looking for, but imo Raceform Interactive is the best out there.
If you are looking for something to make selections for you, or for the holy grail, then I have no idea. (other than that it was found in Alexandretta in ’38 )
well done. interesting finish!
Kandjar D’Allier is 11
They grow up so fast these days…At the moment I’m finding it hard to believe that there’s not one of Mill House, Flyingbolt and Arkle who would be inferior to Master Minded given strength of competition these days, the larger pool of horses etc
So given I can’t decide which one it is I’ll go for one that will likely annoy the older members of the racing community who generally have an orgasm when something carries more than 11-10 to win a handicap and for the moment side with Denman as the most overated.
Other than him then Rhinestone Cowboy.
Couldn’t agree more with every opinion in this post.
I also strongly disagree with those who mentioned Dubai Millenium and Curlin, those were two genuine champions. And personally, I rated Hawk Wing as a superb horse so I disagree with his inclusion too, although that’s one I can obviously understand both sides of the argument on.
A little surprised Best Mate hasn’t been mentioned more too. Maybe his star has been dimmed slightly in the public’s mind given the exploits of many of the Nicholls’ yard over the past few seasons.
I’d have to say that Irish horses seem to do Ok in the UK though despite being rated higher- if anything I’d say they have a better strike rate than local runners in valuable handicap hurdles.
I would argue that a large part of this reason is that the contenders who are shipped across from Ireland will naturally have been targetted at the race from a long way off, and will only be travelling over if everything is in place for the horse to run a good race.
Having said that, it was definitely the case a few years ago that Irish h’cap hurdlers were very well treated, I’m not sure that’s still the case now.
I do think that the Irish National horses have been treated very harshly though.I had a look at this race earlier but have decided to leave it alone. I don’t really see much reason to take on Siegemaster, just a shame the 7/2 forecast price wasn’t accurate!
Siegemaster looks likely to run to his best form, and I don’t like quite a few of his opponents for one reason or another (stamina, ground, not run in novice chase LTO, etc)
Having said that, a shade below 2/1 doesn’t look great value so I will be sitting out unless he drifts.Dice Man I’m not going to promise what you asked- time is short beforehand, but may post brief explanations of ones backed at early prices.
Thanks carvillshill.
I hope VPU continues to be as underrated as he is, he has been one of my most profitable horses for the last few seasons!
Really? I don’t doubt you’re telling the truth, but he seems to have lost a LOT over the last few years. And more often than not at fairly short prices (well, not backable e/w anyway). I can think of many, many horses who would’ve been more profitable to follow over the last few years
Like Divine Man I have found him profitable for me as well – indeed I have made more profit on VPU than any other horse.
Yes he has lost a number of races, however most of the races he lost there was always strong chance he was going to lose, so those days I layed him.
Just because I love a horse to bits, it does not mean I am blinded when it comes to betting. Get emotional when you bet and you are soon in the poor house.
The secret is knowing when to back, when to lay and when to leave alone.
Yes this would have been pretty much exactly my answer. I think he’s very predictable and always runs well in his favoured circumstances (the most important of which is decent ground)
I hope VPU continues to be as underrated as he is, he has been one of my most profitable horses for the last few seasons!
I really like Pandorama in this. His last run seems excusable, he’s now fresh again for this and seems likely to produce his best form. I think he’ll get the lead and it will be interesting to see how Hurricane Fly does in a race run at a decent pace. At 4/1 he is overpriced imo, a rare occurrence for a Meade novice!
Will Big Mac be shot down again on The Morning Line tomorrow for bringing this up?
1/2 Yes
4/6 No
I will take the 1/2 now, I reckon it will be sent off a lot shorter :p
With any pool bet where the pay out is less than the amount of money paid in to the pool, you are guaranteed to get poor value.
Not necessarily true, otherwise there would be no American professional punters. Anyway the same argument could be applied to a bookmaker’s overround.
Accumulators are also unsound, any negative edge is multiplied over the selections, so unless you are getting value, you are going to lose quicker than just betting in singles.
This is spot on and obviously the reason why yankees, etc, are pushed in shops.
Thanks
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