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Dave, are you Jackane reincarnated? You write in the same style. When talking about the championship races next year, you don’t portray them as opinion but fact. Will x horse win x race? Aside from Voy Por Ustedes where you say " probably yes " , they are all definitive yes or no! Unless you have a crystal ball or believe you are the god of horseracing as Jackane did, why not be humble and simply portray it as a view backed up by objective reasoning?
Dave, you say only 6 runs, but look at how competitive his races were. Prior to that he had a tough juvenile campaign culminating in 2 grade ones. With few exceptions Triumph Hurdle winners don’t often make the grade and are huge disappointments the following season. This is usually due to the the fact that the Triumph is such a tough race that it takes every ounce of their spirit and resolution to win. The fact that DC had done so well up to the CH is testament to his toughness. But fatigue will eventually prevail.
I agree wholeheartedly with Aragorn about horses’ ability to be bullies. My own Lemon Silk is a perfect example. Let out in the paddock this winter with the other 3yo’s, whenever it was feeding time he became aggressive towards all the other horses so that he could attack the food on his own. Eventually, he had to be held by a lad so that the others could feed. I’m now hoping he will show this scrappy attitude on the racecourse, lol.
Personally I think Detroit City is crying out for a break and needs to be freshened up. Since his debut in 2005 he has run in 19 races with the only semblance of a ‘break’ being before the highly competitive Ces at Newmarket. His races in the past year or so have mostly been highly competitive (Triumph Hdl, Ces, Anniversary Hdl, Ch hdl, etc) and there is no doubt that this will take a great deal out of a young horse. I don’t agree with the theory that he has temperament problems nor do I believe that his last 2 runs were his true form. I think the horse has done more than enough for his connections for the time being and is entitled to a hard earned break without being aimed at a major flat handicap this season so that he comes back fresh for next season’s hurdle/chase campaign. All these sectional time theories I am reading, although interesting, in this case don’t take into account that DC is not a machine.
Well, I will be generous and quote your chance of bedding Britney at about 10,000,000-1. Therefore if Silver Birch has less chance of winning he should be quoted at approx 12,000,000-1. Although I also believe he has little chance of making the race, let alone winning it, I’d be happy to plonk a quid on with you Flash at that price :biggrin:
Looking for a good run for my money, so the 2 I will stick with are Idle Talk and Kelami.
Good luck to all.
Thank you wit for your usual thorough and insightful feedback. However, as unlikely as it may appear, should the verdict go in the favour of Kinane, even if it is less than the original 1m offered, how would this potentially affect racing in the future? Would an owner of a fractious racehorse be open to action by a jockey if he unseats/injures him? Even worse, an unruly animal unseats his jockey midrace then runs loose and proceeds to cause havoc at a fence, bringing down and injuring other participants. Will that horse’s connections be in a situation where they could potentially be sued?
AP, well done on a terrific run with Salute. Fingers crossed that he will now be raised enough to get in the Chester Cup. For what it’s worth I don’t think he’ll have any trouble staying the 2 1/4m at Chester. The draw, as you say, is a far more relevant factor to the outcome of the race, but at the same time plenty of use must be made of the horse in the first couple of furlongs to assume a handy position. If you’re being held up out the back you will find it very hard to get in the shake up. Good luck.
So in this case, how does one avoid such a situation? There will always be horses that may lash out when spooked. Does that mean we should get anyone who is likely to be in close vicinity to the animal to sign some sort of waiver? ie all stable staff, jockeys etc.  I don’t want to see this litigious mentality spread further into racing. What would be next? Injured jump jockeys suing because the horse wasn’t in his opinion well enough schooled? Or racecourses being sued because their fences were in their opinion unreasonably stiff or unsighted due to sun etc?
If this action is successful I fear that the floodgates will open and all sorts of racing occurrences that were commonplace and accepted as the risks of racing will be open to litigation.
(Edited by naps at 10:15 am on April 7, 2007)
Hi Tom, thank you for taking the time to answer our questions. What 2yos and what older horses do you consider horses to follow from your stable this coming season?
<br>naps<br>Too early to say with the 2-y-o’s yet.<br> <br>Older horses I like are: Raucous, Greek Envoy and Celtic Sultan.
AP, would love to see Salute run in the Chester Cup, but off a mark of 80, he is unlikely to make the cut. Hope you can get a good run into him to get him raised 2-3 lbs.
I agree that this would not solve the integrity issues but I do believe knowing a horse’s racing weight in comparison to his previous weight when running up to his best form would be of huge assistance to the punter. For instance, if punters knew that Gardasee’s weight on his comeback run 2 days ago was 20kgs above his normal racing weight, they wouldn’t have backed him in from 11-2 to 4-1. To me, the knowledge of a horse’s weight is just as useful as knowing a horse is wearing a tongue tie. There is only so much a trainer can do to get a horse fit at home and I am quite sure it would be to the public’s benefit to know when a horse is being raced to ‘bring him on’ . One glance at the horse’s weight will give you this information.
The only way this could work effectively for the public to benefit is to make the trainer declare the horse’s weight at the same time he makes the final declaration for the horse. This would allow plenty of time to print the weight on the racecards. As the horses arrive at the course they are quickly weighed at the entrance to the racecourse stables and any variation of say, more than 5kgs above or below declared weight will be announced to the public well before the race.
Yes, he is fine. Plan was to give him an easy run without putting him under too much pressure since he was far from fully fit.
Natal not going to Cheltenham anyway, so will have plenty of time to recover before Ayr.
