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  • in reply to: Denman #29807
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    It was a reasonable display and improvement can be expected. All the same, I wonder whether he has the turn of foot for the highest class?

    in reply to: The Official Handicapper #80185
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    It’s hard when horses go up in the handicap without winning, and sometimes this even happens while they’re standing in their box. The genuine trier gets penalised while the rest are encouraged to hold everything back for the right day.

    in reply to: Paul Carberry #80125
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    I think you have misunderstood the court’s decision, bluechariot. The conviction has not been overturned.

    The Circuit Court judge has decided it would be appropriate to apply the Probation Act, which is used to let most people off their first offence, the idea being that having gone through the rigours of a legal case they won’t be in a hurry to repeat it. Paul Carberry doesn’t receive a sentence, and he won’t have a criminal record, but that does not mean the conviction has been overturned.

    In the eyes of the Circuit Court judge Carberry had indeed committed an offence and if he were convicted by the courts of a subsequent offence it would count against him.

    in reply to: Paul Carberry #80122
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    Thank goodness, common sense has prevailed.

    in reply to: Great ATR Strategy #79678
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    I think ATR gives a reasonable service, even though the ads drive me crazy as well.

    RUK has better racing from England, but the best of it is already covered by the terrestrial channels anyway.

    Where ATR really scores, though, is its full coverage of Irish racing.

    In terms of value added ATR has more exclusive coverage of quality races than any other channel.

    in reply to: The Curragh #79475
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    The Beresford Stakes was run on the round course, which is rather different to the Guineas mile course. The Racing Post apparently uses the same standard time for both, which is a nonsense. I don’t know which course they used for the handicap.

    The times are always announced at the track to two decimal places but the people responsible for sending the results to the press (Irish Racourse Services?) seem to think it helpful to lop off the second digit. They don’t round, they simply ignore the second decimal.

    For example, a time of 59.99 seconds is given in the results as 59.9 seconds. Be warned.

    in reply to: Wheatland Hunt Cup #78884
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    Hello Paieye, there are a few P2P enthusiasts on here, but I don’t know if their memories stretch back that far. :)

    I would imagine that the hunt which staged the event would have records of the result. If you know which one it was you should be able to find their address by googling.

    in reply to: Queen Elizabeth II Stakes 2006 #77634
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    I think you have an argument, but what you say applies as much to any other no-hoper looking for a moment of glory at the front of the pack as it does to pacemakers.

    I think it would have helped the QEII enquiry if the rules required connections of multiple entries to file the instructions given to their jockeys in a sealed envelope a few minutes before the race.

    in reply to: Queen Elizabeth II Stakes 2006 #77632
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    Librettist, that is an amazing passage you have selected. The first sentence alone contradicts itself twice.

    The panel obviously still think there was deliberate obstruction but declined from saying so, presumably for lack of evidence, and even went so far as to atate the   opposite. This allowed Coolmore to claim an honourable exit until news of the six days given to Heffernan came through.

    Six days for an "offence" that wouldn’t even have registered on the radar had there been no suspicion of team tactics shows what the panel really thinks but dare not say.

    in reply to: Queen Elizabeth II Stakes 2006 #77629
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    Galejade, according to the RP it was Dettori, not Heffernan, who was six or seven horses wide:

    Dettori was the first to give evidence, explaining that he had moved up to challenge Ballydoyle’s third runner, River Tiber, after three furlongs to “inject some paceâ€ÂÂ

    in reply to: Queen Elizabeth II Stakes 2006 #77627
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    According to Nunneley on the day of the race, Heffernan was six or seven horse widths off the rail before the bend. Have a look at the video on ATR – it’s free to view – and see what you think rather than telling me what the stewards think.

    in reply to: Queen Elizabeth II Stakes 2006 #77623
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    The decision is a gutless attempt to get the suggestible Ascot stewards off the hook while avoiding accusing Coolmore of cheating.

    One of the stewards, Mr Nunneley, said in his explanation of their decision that day that the video evidence confirmed what Frankie Dettori had to say. In other words, it sounded as if they heard his complaint first and then looked at the film. And as has been pointed out above, Frankie himself has let slip that he was predisposed to believe there would be trouble in the race.

    Nunneley said that Ivan Denisovich had angled out six or seven horses wide approaching the bend and that this manoeuvre had impeded Librettist and thereby favoured ID’s running mates.

    The stewards may have had another camera angle to view, but the ATR video of the race gives no hint that ID was ever that far off the rail. It also shows that the bump Librettist received was clearly the knock-on effect of a bump given to ID by Araafa.

    It seems to me that the decision by the Ascot stewards was plain wrong and that yesterday’s decision not to reverse it completely is a cowardly fudge.

    in reply to: Queen Elizabeth II Stakes 2006 #77601
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    No, but DT pulled too hard at York as well.

    (Edited by Monkey at 2:46 pm on Sep. 25, 2006)

    in reply to: St Leger 2006 #76279
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    I’m surprised at a Gold Cup winner expressing such sentiments, Mr Yeats!

    The St Leger prize was four times greater than the €100,000 Youmzain picked up yesterday over a trip that seemed barely sufficient for him. It took Fallon at his best to get him up close home.

    Would winning the Leger really have been the kiss of death? Do you think Scorpion’s stud career is over before it starts?<br>

    in reply to: Bookmakers… #75214
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    Ascot was the wrong gig. What serious punter was going to chance their money on these team races, and anyway Chicken Charlotte is crumby.

    in reply to: THE FUTURE OF TRF…. #96009
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    Thanks to all concerned with this decision and the best of luck to them.

    in reply to: Time for Zorro to call it a day? #73553
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    Very good debate going on here.

    In the 1970s Belgian racing was doing quite well and the likes of Lester Piggott used to pop over to Ostende for the bigger races there during the summer. Brussels had three tracks and a training centre.

    By now the Brussels tracks are closed and most races are run for prize money in the hundreds, not thousands, of euro.

    I am told that two factors contributed to this collapse of the sport, one being an unsympathetic fiscal regime, with betting duty of 15% on stakes. But the bigger reason, and the one which probably created the lack of sympathy in the first place, was a race fixing scandal that destroyed the credibility of Belgian racing as a betting medium.

    I don’t think British racing would be as quick to collapse, but decline is certainly possible. Whatever about the details of his argument, Glenn is right to point out that punters wanting a bet are no longer stuck with just racing.

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