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    cormack15cormack15
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    Really looking forward to Denman in half an hour or so. Penzance will give him a fair test and it’ll be fascinating to see how the Nicholl’s horse takes to fences. Could be one of the real stars of this season, and seasons to come.

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    davidjohnson
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    Not sure Penzance will give him much of a test. Can’t help but feel we’ve seen as much from Penzance as what we will. King upped him in trip in desperation last season and chasing is a last throw of the dice. Would be prepared to take him on in a match bet with Kawagino if you could be sure that wasn’t just having a school round.

    Speaking of Kawagino. This looks like very poor placement of the horse. He’s only rated 110 over fences so would be far far better off in a novice handicap instead of taking on 150+ hurdlers in a novice chase.

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    cormack15cormack15
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    Will Hill radio called Denman ‘a tool’ – in a good way I think!

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    graysonscolumngraysonscolumn
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    Quote: from davidjohnson on 2:59 pm on Oct. 31, 2006[br]<br>Speaking of Kawagino. This looks like very poor placement of the horse. He’s only rated 110 over fences so would be far far better off in a novice handicap instead of taking on 150+ hurdlers in a novice chase.<br>

    <br>Agree entirely. Luckily his very early mistake meant he was never going to get so close to the two class acts as to risk wrecking his mark…. this time. I’m gravely worried about Bothar Na taking on Beef Or Salmon and War Of Attrition this weekend for exactly the same reason.

    Jeremy<br>(graysonscolumn)<br>

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    graysonscolumngraysonscolumn
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    Quote: from Grasshopper on 3:29 pm on Oct. 31, 2006[br]Denman jumped ok (nothing spectacular) but wasn’t at all clever up the straight, hanging right from the second last and looking knackered at the finish.

    The form isn’t up to much, but you would hope that Denman would improve when stepped-up in trip.

    <br>He had more of a race of it than may have seemed likely on paper beforehand, and that won’t have hurt him any. He won’t get away with taking any of the Prestbury Park obstacles as badly as he did four out today, mind.

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    Grimes
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    I thought he didn’t clear the fences by very much until he made that fairly bad jump, then he jumped with a bit more gusto.

    <br>(Edited by Grimes at 4:19 pm on Oct. 31, 2006)<br>

    (Edited by Grimes at 4:19 pm on Oct. 31, 2006)

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    Monkey
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    It was a reasonable display and improvement can be expected. All the same, I wonder whether he has the turn of foot for the highest class?

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    guskennedy
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    I expect Denman to do well during the winter on soft ground but to come up a little bit short on faster ground at the Festival. Just like last season, in fact.

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    Mully
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    I hope that Denman will come on alot . He looked huge in the paddock. I wasn’t surprised to see that he just jumped adequately as Nicholls has not been very enthusiastic about his jumping back at the yard. I agree that all his best performances will probably be with a bit of cut in the ground.

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    davidjohnson
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    Quote: from Monkey on 5:36 pm on Oct. 31, 2006[br]It was a reasonable display and improvement can be expected. All the same, I wonder whether he has the turn of foot for the highest class?<br>

    Arguablly likely to be better of further, he showed too much speed than a Triumph Hurdle winner. Don’t rule oyt Nicholls running this in the Arkle.

    #29811
    LUKE
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    I wonder if we will see him on Sunday week at Cheltenham.

    #29812
    Irish Stamp
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    Don’t rule out another Nicholls trained staying novice from the Cheltenham equation.

    #29813
    Aragorn
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    I thought turko the other day was particularly impressive

    #29814
    Aragorn
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    I followed Gungadu last year but think he’s one for the gruelling staying chases, I’m with you Grassy, I think Turko would have too many gears..

    Anyone know if Noland is going chasing or staying over hurdles?

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    davidjohnson
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    This weekend should tell us more about Noland. There is the possibility of him running in the Elite Handicap at Wincanton if the ground gets soft, meaning Desert Quest will miss the race.

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