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  • in reply to: ITV Racing #1762998
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    And the day after a horse sprawls and dies as a result three minutes into the Opening Show we’re reminded about Devon Loch as if it never had happened 🙈🙈🙈

    in reply to: Charlie Marshall 4.50 Fakenham #1759929
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    I remember Robert Bellamy remounting a horse and then it getting stuck on top of a fence and the fence having to be dismantled to rescue the poor beast. 30 years ago at least. Not much has moved on in some quarters clearly.

    in reply to: “Mr” Patrick Mullins #1746215
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    Came third. And Elliott’s second string one with Norman Williamson’s son on won it in a three way go with the third string second. Work that one out.

    in reply to: Coral Gold Cup 2025 #1743288
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    Adding to my own post- up a stone for winning on Saturday where half the fences weren’t jumped and where the second was an obvious non stayer…… :unsure:

    in reply to: Coral Gold Cup 2025 #1743179
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    Lightly raced 8 year old Leave of Absence was quoted as being aimed here by Anthony Honeyball, toughed it out up the hill Saturday, Pied Piper not staying may have made the form a bit shall I say, “odd” though but there were a few fancied and unexposed sorts behind. Doughnuts all around !!! (Owners own Krispy Kreme….)

    in reply to: Retirements #1736485
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    Anthony Honeyball has offered 5 year old mare Getaway’s Gift for rehoming/repurposing. I think this is quite honourable, the horse isn’t going to make it, only ran on Thursday and continues to show no interest. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19krpFeNsk/

    in reply to: Charles Byrnes #1731718
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    Jimmy Focks and son Sean were always acting the maggot. It was the only way small men could get on in the game with a little victory now and again and it hasn’t changed much to this day and anyone who thinks otherwise is on the funny fags.

    Ice Saint’s trainer from this example got rumbled more than once.

    (EDIT) https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2004/mar/10/horseracing.comment

    Racehorse trainer Matt Gingell warned off for “milkshaking”

    Aside, they’re having a stewards enquiry about the stewards at Wexford. Oddly the Irish Field has it as a “subscriber only” article….

    The biased broadcating corporation say this. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/articles/cz0dnpp9lkeo

    I’m a paddy and that sounds a bit to me like a paddy solution to a paddy problem. While Charles Byrnes buys the brush and the son lifts the carpet and everyone draws.

    “WINNER ALRIGHT”.

    in reply to: ITV Racing #1731717
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    Tipping Tim would be a better option and he died in 2012.

    in reply to: ITV Racing #1731242
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    I knew me ears weren’t wrong yesterday. I looked up the Derby betting and Amiloc wasn’t in it.

    And this morning I find this thread on twitter https://x.com/Smido11/status/1926266474991104141?t=MT8zlawv2SqPb3tOf7ANOg&s=19

    :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

    in reply to: David Maxwell oh dear #1729387
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    Should have got a non trier ban, there is an onus on a jockey to not let the horse run “unassisted” I believe ?

    in reply to: Is Willie Mullins’ domination boring? #1726583
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    Rumour came over from Ireland this morning saying there’s a £3million training facility to be built in England for Patrick Mullins to train out of…..

    I suppose in the long run it’s cheaper that ferries and horsebockses.

    in reply to: Retirements #1724946
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    You mean the handicapper didn’t have enough heart to drop him far enough in the weighys for Skeleton’s liking……..

    in reply to: Constitution Hill #1724626
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    Istabraq lost at Aintree in April. And to a Pipe horse which at the time pained me more.

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    Even a publican is coming out against their own industry.

    https://www.racingpost.com/news/festivals/cheltenham-festival/most-operators-have-tried-to-milk-the-festival-for-everything-its-worth-says-local-proprietor-on-cheltenhams-hotel-pricing-policy-aRUvE8K7Ng6y/

    “‘Most have tried to milk the festival for everything it’s worth’ says local proprietor on Cheltenham hotel pricing
    Cheltenham: hotel prices are on the rise for the festival
    Hotel prices are on the rise for Cheltenham Festival racegoers
    A proprietor of two pubs in the Cotswolds has warned that inflated hotel and ticket prices at the Cheltenham Festival are threatening to “burst the bubble” which surrounds the biggest jumps meeting of the year.

    Nathan Eades of The Halfway at Kineton and the Horse & Groom at Bourton on the Hill was speaking after being “horrified” by the the comments of Cheltenham chamber of commerce representative Lindsey Holland, who claimed in Monday’s Racing Post that festival week in the local area painted a “rosy picture” and that hotels “aren’t being incredibly greedy” in the their pricing policy.

    Eades views things very differently and believes most operators have been trying to “milk the festival for everything it is worth” in recent years.

    “I was horrified after reading Lindsey Holland’s quotes in the Racing Post,” said Eades. “I’m genuinely not sure how long it will be until the bubble really bursts.

    “From our experience in hospitality, the best part of the Cheltenham Festival is when racing fans, casual racegoers and locals all come together to celebrate this incredible sport at the racecourse, in the town centre and, importantly for me and a lot of others, in the rural villages and towns that surround Cheltenham.”

    Defending the soaring price of accommodation in and around Cheltenham during festival week, Holland suggested local hotels were not pushing their prices up simply because they could and instead are working to a winning “formula” but the reality is very different as far as Eades and the thousands of racegoers being asked to pay inflated prices are concerned.

    “In recent years most operators have tried to milk the festival for everything it’s worth,” he said. “The hospitality industry is going through a tough time currently and has struggled since Covid. While we completely understand the temptation to try and make a few extra quid during the festival, this ‘formula’ is one that is a quick fix and not a lasting remedy.

    “We have to remember times are also very hard for the average person, and to price them out is very unfair. The breaking point will come. It probably already has for some as they are opting for alternative options away from the racecourse and, ultimately, Cheltenham and the surrounding areas.”

    Local proprietor Nathan Eades with jockey Tom Bellamy
    Local proprietor Nathan Eades (left) with jockey Tom Bellamy
    Eades said all rooms and the restaurant at his two pubs will be full during next week’s festival but does not see that as a licence to start hiking up prices.

    “We have two pubs in the North Cotswolds and have full rooms and full restaurants because we offer a good product at the same price that our customers would get at any other time of year,” he added.

    “Our business model isn’t, shouldn’t be, nor would I allow it to be, one that increases upon perceived demand that is called a ‘formula’. A solid business model is one that has consistency in product, in opening hours and above all else cost. These horrific price hikes have a greater effect on the local economy.”

    As well as being a local proprietor, Eades has shares in two horses trained by Nigel Twiston-Davies and is a sponsor at Stratford and of jockey Tom Bellamy, and his views come from the standpoint of a racing fan as much as they do a business owner.

    He said: “We feel that everyone has lost touch with what a racing festival is meant to be. Racing has always been perceived to be accessible to the masses. I firmly believe if everyone priced it sensibly, everyone would benefit and footfall would naturally increase.

    “We expect there to be between 40,000-50,000 on the Wednesday and Thursday which is an achievement in itself, but long gone are the days when punters pile back in their thousands to racing pubs around the Cotswolds like The Plough at Ford or The Hollow Bottom in Guiting Power.”

    He added: “Perhaps we could all get around a table and find a solution that works for everyone, instead of one person talking on behalf of the Cheltenham chamber of commerce and the whole local hospitality industry.”

    What is hotel availability like in Cheltenham for Tuesday?
    Despite concerns raised about the prices of hotels in and around Cheltenham for next week’s festival, there is limited availability for rooms on the opening day of the fixture.

    Many hotels listed with online travel agents were showing limited availability on Thursday for the first day of the Cheltenham Festival next Tuesday. Occupancy levels were confirmed when the hotels were contacted by the Racing Post.

    According to booking.com, 92 per cent of the hotels listed within two miles of Cheltenham town centre did not have rooms available on Tuesday. This increased to 95 per cent when more than two rooms were requested.

    No rooms were available at the three-star Holiday Inn Express in central Cheltenham. The Ramada Inn, The Queens Hotel and The George each had one deluxe room available costing £449, £934 and £650 respectively for the night. 38 The Park and The Wheatsheaf, which are part of the same group as The George, had no availability.

    Three suites, each priced at £779 for a one-night stay on Tuesday, at The Double Tree by Hilton were the only rooms available.

    Multiple rooms can be booked at the Hotel du Vin and Malmaison in central Cheltenham on Tuesday. Accommodation for ten people at the Hotel du Vin can be booked for a total of £3,331, while the same number of guests can stay at the Malmaison for £3,555.

    At the Charlton Boutique Hotel two miles from Cheltenham, rooms for ten people are bookable on Tuesday night for a combined cost of £2,148.”

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    A fiend of mine has three Club tickets for Friday- they can’t give them away at the moment….

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    Glad.

    0932 from Paddington to Cheltenham and any train back is normally only £94.90.

    You also can buy a day return to Didcot Parkway, a day return Didcot Parkway to Swindon and a third one Swindon to Cheltenham and make it £65- you stay on the same direct trains !!!

    Also 33% off for groups of 3 or more on all of the above.

    I assume you just take 1/2 when you can get 4/6 by making an effort……… :scratch:

    in reply to: Only in Ireland….again. 200/1 into 8/1 #1721200
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    Listen to “Yeats”.

    I’ve not posted on here for a while because homage was being given to a deceased bookie.

    They get a sting every now and then but always win unless they’re gambling rather than hedging (uneconomically) themselves !!!

    The fancy prices talk is all propaganda. How much did any individual bookie really lay at 200/1. And with betfair etc how much did they “stick”/ really lay ?

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