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Quote: from andyod on 6:43 am on May 9, 2007[br]What a race it would be between Rags to Riches and Finsceal Beo?<br>Will it happen at the BC?
In a turf race or on dirt ?
Can’t see it happening myself.
Crab the form of the Boussac, but it is the best on offer for Sunday’s race. After all, Finsceal Beo actually won by wide daylight in a fast time. She couldn’t really do anymore than that.
Imho, Bolger’s filly will win – easily.
As usual, a fascinating contest.
Will a BC Juvenile winner get to win a KD ? How good actually is Curlin ? Will Scat Daddy get the better of Nobiz again and will that be good enough to win the race? Is Circular Quay the one ? Is Hard Spun’s latest bullet workout highly significant ? Will the winner come from non of the above – and so many more questions.<br> <br>Bring it on.
I think this year’s competition will be more like 5 to follow, because most entries will contain Teofilo, Fisceal Beo, Dylan Thomas, Yeats and Adagio.
<br>Bosra Sham was brilliant but Miesque was the best filly I’ve seen in my 44 years.
Quote: from guskennedy on 12:34 pm on April 29, 2007[br]Cape Verdi’s winning time gives her the edge over Russian Rhythm, for me. Things went wrong for her after the Guineas but she was brilliant that day.<br>
It is such a shame that she wasn’t able to display her considerable talents more than she actually did.
I remember feeling suicidal when Sheikh Mohammed announced, in his wisdom, that he was going to run her in the Derby rather than the Oaks, because I had backed her at largish odds ante-post to win the Epsom Fillies’ Classic. I still feel the pain of it all to this day.
It can only be Russian Rhythm, imo, as she passed the acid test of beating top colts.
It’s a pity the year range didn’t back another year to include Bosra Sham ;that would have been one hell of a race
(Edited by ClintM at 11:53 am on April 29, 2007)
Quote: from Aragorn on 12:24 pm on April 27, 2007[br]Some nice animals lining up for this today and should be a cracker of a race.
Last years BC Turf winner Red Rocks lines up for his seasonal re-appearance (In the UK). Without wishing to crab the form too much, i’m of the opinion the BC turf wasn’t the strongest race you’ll ever see and there are plenty of better middle distance horses around than red rocks.
(Edited by Aragorn at 12:25 pm on April 27, 2007)<br>
RR’s can thank one person for his BC win : Dettori. Frankie’s pace awareness was spot on at Churchill – most of the others went what turned out to be suicidal fractions, and he (Dettori) had the sense to lay of the pace . Dettori certainly  showed a few jocks that day how to ride a 12f turf race.
(Edited by ClintM at 8:59 pm on April 27, 2007)
Quote: from Alderbrook on 1:35 am on April 16, 2007[br]Just 2 races a day for you then Clint (are you Zorro’s mate btw?).
The handicaps were great pointers for the rest of the season and a great loss imo.
Each to his/her own, Alderbrook. I’ll leave the flat-handicap minefield to others.
The Craven meeting has always been about Classic trials. The handicaps won’t be missed by me.
(Edited by ClintM at 11:51 pm on April 15, 2007)
Quote: from Aragorn on 10:38 am on April 4, 2007[br]Maybe he just isn’t good enough? <br>
Unbelievable.
Perhaps your ignornance stems from the fact that race analysis is still in the dark ages in UK.
(Edited by ClintM at 10:28 pm on April 4, 2007)
Quote: from reet hard on 7:15 am on April 4, 2007[br]The original point of my post was that Discreet Cat was ridden in such a manner as not to be seen to his best, and, as a horse that wins his races by his stride as much as his speed, he was handicapped by not being able to use a considerable strength.<br>What effect that had on the outcome, or indeed the throat infection, can only be a matter of conjecture, but Sheikh Hamdan did call it before the race, which imo makes it much more credible than the somewhat inevitable aftermath. <br>
I can’t believe that Godolphin went into the race with a definite plan to hold the horse up way off the pace. Surely race tactics are best left to the jockey to decide for him/herself as the race develops and once the pace of the race has been established ?
Whatever, I haven’t seen the sectionals, but the final time of the race was pretty fast (sub 2 mins for 10 furlongs) even for a speed track such as NaS, which suggests to me that a top-of-his-game Discreet Cat would have been able to at least pick off some – or even most – of the stragglers in the lane, which he obviously wasn’t able to do.
There are rumors abound that DC is becoming increasingly difficult to train. Personally, I’m looking at this and/or his throat infection for his WC eclipse.
Quote: from reet hard on 9:39 pm on April 3, 2007[br]Very interesting point of view put forward by Sheikh Hamdan here.<br>It seems that he believes Discreet Cat was beaten by the tactics adopted rather than any infirmity, and apparently predicted so before the race.<br>Has the ring of truth about it too imo, not least because of when it was said rather than used afterwards as a convenience.
Discreet Cat would never have won on Saturday no matter how he was ridden, imo.
And I can’t believe Hamdan criticism of Jara – a jockey who rides one hell of a lot better than the retained Richard Hills.
I can see Forefathers taking them through very quick fractions and just maybe Twilight Meteor comes by and nails them all.
TM on top of my wagers.
(Edited by ClintM at 7:58 pm on Mar. 24, 2007)
Quote: from Librettist on 12:57 pm on Mar. 23, 2007[br]
Quote: from PAULCS on 12:20 am on Mar. 19, 2007[br]<br>Teofilo<br>Discreet Cat<br>Alexandrova<br>George Washington;) <br>
<br>Anyone else think that Discreet Cat may not quite see out a strongly run 1m2f in the Dubai World Cup…or is it just me?<br>
Great match up this , Discreet Cat’s speed against Invasor’s stouteness.
If DC gets involved in suicidal fractions and the race turns into a war, he could well have a problem, imo.
Quote: from Friggo on 4:55 pm on Mar. 23, 2007[br]OK, hands up, my statement was hyperbolic, maybe even a bit rash. I think FSL got it spot on with the small fields point.
I just think he’s unfairly treated because he’s never run well over here. In Ireland he’s beaten all comers, including the likes of Kicking King and Best Mate; but he’ll be remembered as some sort of donkey just because he gets travel sickness. I think it’s slightly unfair on a horse that has been in the top half dozen long-distance chasers for over 4 years now.
Personally, I don’t buy into the " he doesn’t travel well out of Ireland " theory. I think that he just needs very soft/heavy ground.
