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"This included an endoscopic examination of his respiratory tract, which revealed an obstructive granulomatous mass within his throat, in addition to significant swelling of theunderlying throat wall, as a result of an infective process"
<br>Can someone tell me how soon before a race this kind of examination could take place without effecting performance?
I would hazard a guess that it would require some sort of anaesthetic, so a couple of days I’d imagine.
But you can’t surely expect them to perform such an examination before every run?
Quote: from LetsGetRacing on 4:13 pm on April 1, 2007[br]I would hazard a guess that it would require some sort of anaesthetic, so a couple of days I’d imagine.
<br>I too could hazard a guess, but thought i’d maybe enquire, hence the post
But you can’t surely expect them to perform such an examination before every run?
I don’t expect or presume anything, like you seem to be doing
There’s no need to adopt that attitude, empty, no need whatsoever.
I didn’t know what opinion you held of the procedure, so put forward mine in the hope of it proving to be in any way useful.
I’ll not bother next time.
Quote: from LetsGetRacing on 4:56 pm on April 1, 2007[br]There’s no need to adopt that attitude, empty, no need whatsoever.
I didn’t know what opinion you held of the procedure, so put forward mine in the hope of it proving to be in any way useful.
I’ll not bother next time.
My attitude is, that if someone comes on the thread, spouting "you can’t surely expect etc""
I can and will reply in kind
(Edited by empty wallet at 5:01 pm on April 1, 2007)
Lots of racehorses get scoped before races, some even the morning of the race, no drugs are needed…I have assisted with lots of endescopes….and after a race, trainers tend to have a trach wash too, to see if there is anything in the lungs…<br>
Alot of the time its impossible to see it before the race despite the problem being there. Its only after the mental and phyical exertions and stress of the race that allows them to then be spotted.
Thanks racing girl,
any idea how long before the race Discreet Cat would have shown signs of the above or do these things appear like a flu bug can, ie: fine one day and then full of it the next?
Quote: from Aidan on 8:35 pm on April 1, 2007[br]Alot of the time its impossible to see it before the race despite the problem being there. Its only after the mental and phyical exertions and stress of the race that allows them to then be spotted.<br>
Would not a decent excersise gallop show it?
would not seeing your other horses hit a wall show something was amiss and therefore alert you to a possible problem within your stable and your star that missed his earlier prep due to a problem may still be suffering some problem
No, in a piece of work the animals are (or should be) in a much more relaxed state as they are on their home gallops, working in peace and quiet. Race day and the race itself but massive stress and pressure on the animal….nothing else like it. That is why so many horses scope badly after the race.
Yes Aidan, but most horses get used to the hurly burly of raceday (bar the misfits like George Washington) excersise however light, will/should exert pressure on undiscovered ailments , be it joint, muscle or breathing problems
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(Edited by empty wallet at 8:54 pm on April 1, 2007)
Quote: from Mounty on 8:54 pm on April 1, 2007[br]There’s a far simpler explaination – the other six horses ran faster.<br>
<br>Of course Mounty , but i think if your ill you aint gonna run as fast as you have done in previous races
excersise however light, will/should exert pressure on undiscovered ailments , be it joint, muscle or breathing problems
But that is not true…in practice or clinically. I dont know where your getting that from.<br>
Quote: from Aidan on 8:58 pm on April 1, 2007[br]
But that is not true…in practice or clinically. I dont know where your getting that from.<br>
Sorry Aidan, i should have put, I presume/assume before that
Yep trackside
<br>What i’m trying to figure out is, when ALL data up to race time pointed to a possible below par run coming, did Godolphin opt to run an animal that had already missed a prep with an ailment
(Edited by empty wallet at 9:15 pm on April 1, 2007)
This is what i put on another forum
"The race itself is fascinating and everything points to the CATas far as i can make out, except the minor doubt about the distance, but:
With the exception of one or two( who were probably well ahead of their opposition ) the Godolphin horses have not been finishing their races and just falling into a heap when asked for effort at the business end, add to this Discreet Cat missed it’s prep race and what would have probably have been a canter for him imo and you have to have serious doubts from a punting prespective
3 wins from 42 runs does not bode well imo
I’ll be on his side come the night, but keeping my wallet firmly closed<br>Last edited by Charlie D : 03-29-2007 at 02:15 PM"
I find it unbelievable that someone in the Godolphin team couldn’t come up with a similar conclusion and think, hold on there’s summat amiss with our horses, maybe we should have them examined properly and maybe not be running any until we get to the bottom of this problem
(Edited by empty wallet at 9:39 pm on April 1, 2007)
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