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The UK Taxation is over complicated and needs a complete overhaul.
Decades of Government tampering in order to win votes has left it in a total mess.
Brown promised reform but has not addressed Stamp Duty which considering its age, needs urgent addressing.
I don’t disagree Tamarinbleu’s lead will be uncontested at Cheltenham. However I wouldn’t want to take him on just because he might not be improving at the fast rate of knots his Ascot voctory implies.
Looking down the card Another Promise at 33/1 is a forgotten horse and could be capable of springing a surprise for E/W and place players!
But surely if the ground inconvenienced Twist Magic how did he manage to travel into the race like a winner appraoching the home straight?
Granted, on better ground he may well be able to conserve more energy but even on a sound surface anything putting his stamina to the test at Cheltenham will seriously test his mettle.
With no such concerns about VPU staying the trip or acting on the track, I think his chances of reversing Sandown form with TM are as valid as TM reversing Ascot form with the Pipe horse.
On the day I will be backing VPU to win and Tamarinbleu as a place banker/saver. I will lay Twist for a win and also a place if the ground is soft.
January 22, 2008 at 18:26 in reply to: Carling Cup – Arsenal V Tottenham HT/FT – whatdyathink? #137042Hi MikkyMo,
I backed Arsenal a number of times last season and got the impression they always left everything late.
Not followed them too closely this season – have they got over that habit of not scoring until the final 10/15 minutes?
Marodima is a notoriously hard puller and not for the first time he let his supporters down.
Twist Magic cruised into contention approaching the home straight simply to empty when oustayed by a better horse on the day.
I think it is dangerous to dismiss the Victor Chandler form. I didnt hear the same sources who are arguing Twist Magic was unlucky at Ascot (as a result of treacherous ground conditions) saying Voy Por Ustedes had excuses at Sandown (Cheltenham seasonal debut having taken a worse toll than connections realised).
Until Twist Magic wins the QM, the undecided among punters would do well to take the VC form at face value, especilally considering the finishing positions of Mansony and Hoo La Baloo in relation to Twist Magic.
Be fair to the guy.
He has posted a name of an unraced Dartnall bumper contender on another thread.
To the other poster, yes they are all trying, but what about the plotted up horses who haven’t been trying all season around the Irish/Northern UK gaffs??? Might be useful to know a few of their names in advance!
Lincoln and Marb! The gloves are off!!!
Fair enough. I dont know him other than by sight, but through he was a breath of fresh air to the racing broadcasting world.
Dare I say a world where their allocation of ethnic minorities is pretty poor!
Thanks Lodge – I take it this bumper animal is one to lump on then on debut?
Any idea when he runs? Is he rated as highly as Karanja was as a bumper horse?
Do you work for the yard?
You’ve lost me Ugly Mare?
You’re not Jendali-Lass are you by the way?
Whats "pm" mean?
Fair enough – I first noticed Dartnall when Lord Sam came on the scene and I won a few bob on him.
But since then the wheels have come off.
Maybe I am being blinkered about White because of his association with a yard I have lost money on in the past.
But at present I would leave both well alone for betting purposes.
BTW who is the champinio bumper horse? Broomhill Flyer?
I have made this point on other threads, but the distance between Twist Magic and Hoo La Baloo was about what you would expect on official ratings.
Also, take Tamarinbleu out of the race and we wouldn’t be debating the race at all – everyone would be claiming Twist Magic only has to turn up at Cheltenham to win the QM.
I think Paul Nicholls rather unsportingly refused to acknowledge Tamarinbleu’s achievement (unlike Alan King accepting defeat graciously in the Tingle Creek).
Yes the field finished strung out, but that is often the case when a proven staying front runner runs his rivals "ragged". Rememebr Carvills Hill’s demolition jobs for instance.
It is so often the case that when a "talking horse" from a top yard gets turned over at odds on, the media and public alike look for excuses. One could argue Twist Magic’s fall in the Arkle was because he was starting to empty. I know it didn’t look like that, but on Saturday’s evidence, in a truly run race on a stiff track he was found wanting.
With all the respect in the world Richard, I think you are looking far too deeply into this. Personally Twist Magic is a cast iron lay for the QM now, and if the ground were to be testing, a place lay to boot!
Personally don’t rate him. At Fontwell he almost go the horse beat wrapping the first in the home straight on all 3 occasions he jumped it in the race.
Dartnall has had enough chances with decent horses, but something always seems to go wrong.
Not a yard I risk money on anymore these days. I had a painful day with them at Carlisle last November – Dartnall came on TV to say the only one of his 3 he did not fancy was the one who was not fav. It duly won at 9/1 – and White did not cover himself in glory on Sporting Rebel that day.
On the subject of Oliver Sherwood, his fall from the top echeleons has been major. What went wrong.
I know he was involved with the bloodstock sales scam with Paul Webebr, is that the reason.
Also Christopher Heath has disappeared (did he die?) and Brian Stewart-Brown doesn’t have too many horses these days. Is it just he focused on too small a clutch of owners, and when they went/downsized he was screwed?
In a similar vein, what has happened with Len Lungo? An equally spectacular fall from the spotlight. Presumably his problem is David Stevenson downsizing? Why did Stevenson do this?
But clearly not for RUK? I dont think he was any less capable than the pundits they use these days.
BTW he isnt anything to do with Furlongtogo is he?
Steve Mellish always sounds like he has just taken a large mouthful of Mr Kiplings Ginger Sponge Cake!
Jodami, good point about Well Chief. However he wasn’t coming off a long lay off due to serious injury – it is this reason why connections are trying to mind the horse’s interests above all else.
As for Noland not giving much air – his jumping style reminds me of Best Mates – and he never came unstuck!
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