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  • #6358
    chateauonline
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    Last year RUK hired a black guy who worked as a pundit. He isn’t on anymore?

    Anyone know who I mean. I used to see him at jumps meetings for years before he turned up on RUK.

    Any idea what has happened to him?

    #136994
    Scottf
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    If you’re talking of Ken Pitterson, he does the weekly notes column in The Weekender.

    #136998
    chateauonline
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    I think that is him.

    As I said, he was a "face" at jumps meetings for years, with his flat cap.

    When he turned up on RUK I couldn’t believe it.

    He is a nice guy. Has he always been a journo? How come RUK dont use him anymore?

    #137004
    davidjohnson
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    He does some live paddock info for William Hill Radio.

    #137006
    chateauonline
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    But clearly not for RUK? I dont think he was any less capable than the pundits they use these days.

    BTW he isnt anything to do with Furlongtogo is he?

    #137025
    seabird
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    I was talking to him at Chepstow at the end of last year.

    He is still available for gigs with RUK, but works on a regular basis for Billy Hills radio and has difficulty fitting into the RUK roster.

    Colin

    #137034
    chateauonline
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    Fair enough. I dont know him other than by sight, but through he was a breath of fresh air to the racing broadcasting world.

    Dare I say a world where their allocation of ethnic minorities is pretty poor!

    #137050
    stilvi
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    Dare I say a world where their allocation of ethnic minorities is pretty poor!

    That does not mean anyone should go out of their way to find any. The same with women broadcasters. Ideally everyone should be there on merit.

    The number of black racegoers is very small so it is hardly surprising the lack of broadcasters.

    #137098
    LUKE
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    Rishi Persad is a joke but then again so is Zoe Bird.Personally I couldn’t care about the colour,gender or sexual orientation of a pundit as long as they are good at their job.

    #137123
    Ted
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    I thought the bloke was absolutely useless, and in my view the only thing that got him on the tv talking about horse racing was his black face.

    #137149
    bimble
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    Mr Pitterson,s speciality is by the paddock , trying to find winners of races
    based on its conformation , appearance etc..

    He seems to know his stuff but I suppose he’d have to be on a lot more
    often , especially in the bigger races at bigger meetings to measure
    the value of his opinions .

    Talking of RUK pundits what happened to Peter Harris , ex
    jockey agent , a rolypoly gentleman from South Wales who does not go
    in for bland platitudes and is not one of the stuffy squad . I used to enjoy his appearances , usually at Salisbury .

    I think he may have fallen foul of Angus McNae . Harris turned up
    one warm day to share the punditry with McNae who was
    obviously displeased that Harris had turned up in a t-shirt , not
    shirt and tie . It’s obviously more important what you wear than what
    you say .

    Now he is no longer on RUK , South Wales seems to have no
    representative in the racing TV media !.

    #137181
    graysonscolumn
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    I thought the bloke was absolutely useless, and in my view the only thing that got him on the tv talking about horse racing was his black face.

    I couldn’t agree less. Each pundit on RUK and ATR brings their own particular strengths to bear on the channel – with some it is literal interpretation of the formbook, with others private handicapping (I think Steve Mellish trusts his own juvenile hurdle figures above anyone else’s, doesn’t he?), and in Ken’s case – as Bimble mentioned – it is the physical conformation and race-readiness of horses.

    Ken is simply part of the broad spectrum of different ways RUK invites the viewer to judge a horse race and its protagonists. Conformation wouldn’t rate as everyone’s prefered angle into a race, but to me he has proven a more useful aid than most on the specialist channels in this regard, and would still have proven as much if he had three eyes, green skin and a fang.

    gc

    The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.

    #137184
    graysonscolumn
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    Talking of RUK pundits what happened to Peter Harris , ex
    jockey agent , a rolypoly gentleman from South Wales who does not go
    in for bland platitudes and is not one of the stuffy squad . I used to enjoy his appearances , usually at Salisbury .

    I think he may have fallen foul of Angus McNae . Harris turned up
    one warm day to share the punditry with McNae who was
    obviously displeased that Harris had turned up in a t-shirt , not
    shirt and tie

    I remember seeing that meeting. I think it was one of the evening ones at the Wiltshire venue, but it was still punishingly hot and sultry. I wouldn’t presume to speak for Mr McNae on the matter of attire, but I’d certainly suggest that practicality and comfort in one’s attire would have counted for more on that occasion (especially at an unpretentious, relaxed, minor evening meeting).

    It is noted, incidentally, that the same presenter was bearing as much chest as What Difference Does it Make-era Morrissey during RUK’s half-term review earlier this week – presumably the daffodils and hearing aid will follow shortly. :wink:

    It would be a shame if Peter Harris is not being utilised again this year, as he was a fearless enough speaker, as you mentioned. I wouldn’t write off the chances of him reappearing until the Flat season is in full cry, though.

    gc

    The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.

    #137193
    graysonscolumn
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    The number of black racegoers is very small so it is hardly surprising the lack of broadcasters.

    I think there is a danger in assuming that the physical representation on the racecourse of certain ethnic groups accurately represents the degree of interest in racing of those groups.

    Black, Asian and – in particular – Chinese people certainly abound in many bookmakers (all of the ones I have frequented in Birmingham and currently Herts and Bucks, for sure); and for all anyone can tell at this remove the take-up of RUK subscriptions, volume of transactions placed on horse racing on Betfair, etc., may also betray a broader ethnic spread.

    In the light of all of which, a raft of presenters representative of the likely audience does not seem especially tokenistic or objectionable to me.

    gc

    The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.

    #137194
    seabird
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    I am trying hard not to mention the very likeable Rishi Persad at this point.

    How about the raft of female presenters, Jeremy, do you think that reflects the number of females that frequent betting shops and have Racing UK subscriptions?

    Colin

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