Noland

[chateauonline]

On the subject of Oliver Sherwood, his fall from the top echeleons has been major. What went wrong.

I know he was involved with the bloodstock sales scam with Paul Webebr, is that the reason.

Also Christopher Heath has disappeared (did he die?) and Brian Stewart-Brown doesn’t have too many horses these days. Is it just he focused on too small a clutch of owners, and when they went/downsized he was screwed?

In a similar vein, what has happened with Len Lungo? An equally spectacular fall from the spotlight. Presumably his problem is David Stevenson downsizing? Why did Stevenson do this?

[beckster]

Ruby got of noland and said he would win anything from 2 to 3 miles, he also said he was very agile and clever at his fences..

i don,t think he was to low at any he didnt brush though them he cleared them by just enough… when he first started schooling he was a little carefull so Pauls schooled him alot to over come this….

David Stephenson thought he had to many horses not cutting it at a good level this is why he’s cut down

[yorkshirepudding]

M Hales Owns the horse, niot the trainer or the jockey or any bugger else, when all said and done, if he wishes too avoid cheltnum or run him their its his choice, i don’t blame him for being nervous after loosing a good horse on that track this season. i remeber when one man was killed, i watched the race, you could feel it watching from home that the racecourse was in shock, i dont doubt anyone on course would have happly lost a winning bet on the winner if one man had come home safe…

Noland won nicely,i suspect the ground was softer than ideal and that he was not one hundred percent fit.

For those who scream for him too run in the Arkle, theirs only one gold cup in jumping and the Arkle isnt it.

[beckster]

here here yorkshire , if only more people thought like you…….. nobby is fit and well tday, and leg seems all gd, so gd to rock

[moehat]

Throughout the years that I have been mad about racing the day that One Man died is the bleakest; I’ve been very upset over the years about other horses but that was by far the worst…I want to see those colours winning races, not linked to tragedy again….nothing would please me more than to see Noland coming up that Cheltenham hill like a winner, but it’s not up to me…good luck to them, whatever they decide.

[beckster]

thanx moe your nice comments,thanx and condolances are always passed on to the hales, lets hope the rest are good, watch out for nippers(neptunes)return sat at chelt

[davidbrady]

With all due respect to John Hales and connections of his horses, if he doesn’t want to run them because of risk of injury or even death, then he should probably get out of the sport or start buying Flat horses.

The horses are bred to run and jump fences, they are bought to run and jump fences, and they are sent to Paul Nicholls to run and jump fences. They are not family pets, irrespective of how much love anybody feels for them.

This is not to say that I don’t care about the horses but you have to be realistic.

And before anybody asks me "how many horses have I owned or lost", the answer is none.

But that still doesn’t take away from the fact that the horses are there to run races and Noland is not injured so there is no reason why he shouldn’t run in the Arkle.

[seabird]

…..surely that is entirely up to his owner, David.

If, for whatever reason, he doesn’t feel happy about running a novice at the Festival he has every right to take a different option.

Colin

[Getzippy]

I Think Noland’s performance was satisfactory/encouraging – no more than that.

I also think he is a 3 miler already – he will be outpaced in the Arkle and make mid division at best. (Unless they go a truly suicidal pace – as opposed to a healthy festival gallop)

Zip

[beckster]

Well for some one who doesnt own any horses you seem to THINK you know alot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

in fact you know nothing unless you start owning horses you will never know how it feels to have an empty stable.. i guess your just a gambler who only thinks about the money he can win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you dont think ONE MAN became a family pet , well if you dont you must come from a different planet….

For a horse that beat a champion hurdle candidate who is now rated in the 160’s your now saying he has no pace well i havnt seen a horse who lacks pace win a 2 mile hurdle grade 1 race at cheltenham!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i suppose we will maybe find out in march or maybe not!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[davidbrady]

beckster – what do you think John Hales should do with Noland. The horses has to run in a chase at Cheltenham for the first time at some stage! Wrapping him in cotton wool won’t change that.

[Bulwark]

If you look back to fourth place in nolands supreme novice you might also see the champion hurdle favorite and a champion hurdle winner in one, and if im not mistaken noland came rallying up the hill in that race quite nicely.

[yorkshirepudding]

Their are other festivals, aintree and punchestown, the victor chander meeting at newbury is another one that springs too mind. Cheltnum reminds me allot of Beverly minus the fencesor a g1 jockey course….

Plus Mr Hales owns the horse, its his call, all this preasure from people talking out of the wallets.
He has got in wrog, Silvr Birch was was once his he sold it ad one the national, history has proven that the horse is as fragile as a peice of bone china….

[beckster]

beckster – what do you think John Hales should do with Noland. The horses has to run in a chase at Cheltenham for the first time at some stage! Wrapping him in cotton wool won’t change that.[/quoteYES he will have to run at chelt at some point, but hopefully when he has bit more exsperience,all these comments of discussion on nobbys future started before he even returned to the track….n who was to say he wouldent av started on folkstone????????????? basically at end of the day the final decision will be down to owner n trainer,but dont mean to be rude but some people are just in it 4the cash………and some r professional who in it for the cash, whatever line people slot into is fine but also remember if you are connected to the horse , u have feelings for them………..

[Anonymous]

Too right Beckster.
Anyone who has invested so much time and patience in a horse has to put its long term prospects ahead of any single race, regardless of who has bet it and for what.
Where-ever he runs this season, the horse has enormous potential for the future and any plans have to be made with that future, and the continued well-being of the horse, paramount at all times.

[Fist of Fury 2k8]

Price ain’t half tumbled he’s now 6/1. Seems he will have two more quick runs then all being well will go for the Arkle.

He wins those two races he’ll be a 7/4 shot even if its two mules and a dog he beats.

If however he makes a few blunders along the way I can’t see the owner agreeing to run him after what Beckie has said. He is only a one race novice and as brilliant as he looked doing it at speed is never the same.

Someone said he was jumping to low but with all respect that’s irrelevant.Some horses are just economical jumpers with a good eye. The bigger the fence the higher he’ll jump it’s not all down to the jockey you know.

Glad I took the 16/1 when I did now Reet

[seabird]

It was I who suggested that he was jumping low, but I did qualify it by saying that it might have been accuracy, Fists.

Colin

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