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I haven’t read the article, but a s a ‘horse person’ TB has given every sign that he has a problem all season, and that class alone has got him to where he has finished in races 08/09. Might not be a simple problem to sort out but he certainly hasn’t looked anywhere near right in his runs, don’t know about the impression he gives at home.
No moehat, that didn’t happen. Drumconvis struggled to his feet just as the field by-passed the last fence but sadly it was only too obvious that he had sustained a fracture. A grim renewal of the Irish National which not many racing folk will look back on with any pleasure. But congratulations must go to Bob Buckler, a much under-rated trainer.
According to the race report on RP website (which could be incorrect, I grant you) Davy Russell’s mount DID jump the last when he should have gone round the fence. Thus listed as Ran Out (jumping final fence) as did not follow prescribed course.
I did not see what actually happened but I sincerely hope this is very carefully enquired into, for obvious reasons – not many horses at the end of a long race will drag the jockey (attempting to steer elsewhere) over a fence rather than follow other runners arond it – was the jockey riding as well as should be expected? Anyone actually see the incident.
Thankfully I only saw the end of the race so did not see the fate that befell Wichita but the image of the fallen horse scrambling to it’s feet from behind the screens, with apparent injury could not be avoided, nor the sight of the riderless bay (was that Emma Jane?) pulling up very lame close to eventual winner.
Seems he has a 9yo in training, Imago Mundi, which hasn’t raced since 2005, according to the site. Anyone got any idea why it remains in training?
That horse ran April 2006 (for a different yard).
Maybe it’s a good lead horse? Though is listed on RP as entire so it might not be.
I realise it’s a little different, but Well Chief ran (rather well!) at Cheltenham after 2 years off, having had 2 years off immediately prior to that. He’s 10 now, but still looked pretty quick to me.
But I guess it could affect jockeys detrimentaly if engaged to ride a horse that becomes a non-runner, and they can’t get on an alternative mount, or to another meeting? Do they only get any riding fee at all if actualy get on the horse?
It should be "Big Bucks" as he’s named after the former Pro Bull Riding Champion Bucking Bull of the same name
But I’d read that Stewart-Brown wanted to name it Big Buxsome Blonde (or something similar), burt was denied that choice – and so the Big Buck’s is the ‘acceptable’ versuion of the intention?
Hence the apostrophe is fairly irrelevant from a gramatical point of view anyway?
Lady Harris owned show jumpers years ago – not a recent development (thouigh maybe her riding them is). I’m sure David Broome rode a number of top horses for her, so that dates it as it’s some time since he was jumping top level.
And yes they were in carpets as it were.
Sorry – I meant Chapple-Hyam , not Haggas!
Yes John Berry is who I was thinking of too.
PC-H didn’t used to train at Newmarket so not that likely to be him surely?
Howabout Henry Cecil for No 3?
…can I answer these quiz questions..
1) After criticism of the dress standards being adopted by some individuals on Newmarket Heath in the mornings, which current, prolific letter-writing trainer rode out next day in a particularly smart tie – but wearing shorts, wellington boots and no shirt at all?
2) Name two of the three horses which landed a famous treble for Mark Tompkins at Ascot’s 1991 Festival of Racing.
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3) After a contretemps with Mark on the heath one morning, whose assistant trainer later famously asked his dual Derby-winning employer: “Why did Mr. Tompkins question your parentage, Guvnor”?
Any help would be appreciated.
What quiz are the questions from?
I don’t live in Newmarket either but can hazard a guess at the first one (as far as my thinking goes, the letter writing is a big clue and I have seen photos of him strangley attired on a horse!), and so could research on the internet to check.
Presume you aren’t actually asking about No.2 as that is factual and race records would show it (or was this a quiz you had to answer on the hoof?)
No.3 How many Newmarket trainers have won the Derby twice? Can’t be THAT many surely – and it asks for the name of the trainer, not the assistant who asked the question. It says ‘famously’ asked so perhaps the quote appears – perhaps in one of the RP books or something?
Thanks TP.
In fact the Racing Post have greatly exaggerated reports of his death (in umpteen places!) and I am thrilled to confirm that he is in fact alive and well today!
So I am upset… but for a different reason now!
As far as I know, his jockey Ryan Mania HAS broken HIS leg, but that might be misreported too!
Hi
If it’s just one trainer or a few try their websitesJust a few. Couldn’t find a website for either that I wanted to look up unfortunately – A McCabe (Retford) and O Brennan?
Tracey Bailey moved onto John Francome later on than getting mixed up with Norman Williamson, and was with JF for quite some time I think (still is?). TB has show horses too, as do her children, and they compete in the show ring.
I had real fun with the pedigree searcher. Once Upon A Cat is a direct decendent from the Barb mare Tregonwells Natural Barb. Within four generations the line carried the Turkmium blood of the Byerley Turk and the Desert Arabain blood the Darley Arabian, the result would be mouth watering The family has been at Clairborne Farm in the US and in the ownership of the Maktoums, oddly enough only Cat and her dam whatdidyoucallme were bay, the family had grey for four generations since Ghazini was born 1942 the US born daughter of Derby winner Mahmoud.
Cat will now start a new dynisty in Normandy upon retirement from racing. The heritage in the breed is one of the things I love.
As regards the grey/bay, not sure igf you know, but the grey gene is a modifier that goes on top of the actual colour, so in simple terms the horse can have a bay gene for example, AND the grey modifier which means the coat will ‘grey out’ and animal will eventually (at varying speeds) be grey/white. If a horse has the grey gene it WILL show itself, so you cannot get a grey horse without at least one grey parent. Looking at this pedigree, the grey came from The Tetrach (and his ancestors), progressively down the generations to the mare Turkish Teasure. However, TT did not pass the grey gene onto Cat’s grandam Thankhayr (bay) so it did not continue and with two bay parents Once Upon a Cat couldn’t possibly be grey.
Nor will her offspring be unless of course you choose a grey stallion Well i got a bit confused.
A horse i have, i think has somone in his bloodline that is an Irish Guineas winner, Miralla.
I just wondered exactly how close/distant the bloodline was that is all.
Thank you.
You can also look on Racing Post – try clicking Dam when you put horse name in Search box rather than ‘horse’, and just play with the options and other links you get. Doesn’t necessarily go very far back, but does give some progeny of Miralla (by Allangrange?)
1985 bay gelding Allow for Change (USA) by Super Concorde (USA), two runs over fences.
1989 Mysuma (IRE) bay mare by Ahonoora, 9 runs on the flat, won 5k + from 1 win and 3 places. Trained by DErmot Weld, owned by David Nagle.
Sketchy details but think 1987 filly named Golden Concorde by Super Concorde (went thru Goffs sales 1998, 1999 and 2002), and 1988 offspring Minami by Caerleon, sold at Tatts 2000.
May be others further back but not available on RP.
Dunno if this helps!
Regarding blindfolds, a few years ago a horse being loaded into stalls with a blindfold dumped the jockey (or jockey may have already dismounted for loading, I can’t recall) and got loose from handler. I believe it was at Doncaster. Horse ran through plastic rails and across centre of corse, unable to see properly – blinds stayed put. There were advertising hoardings and the like about and it was awful. Incredibly, and thankfully, the horse missed everything and was OK.
(Sorry Caps Lock!) I THINK THE BLINDFOLD DESIGN WAS aLTERED A BIT AFTER THAT, AND THEY DO SEEM TO FALL OFF A BIT EASIER, AND BE EASIER TO PULL off when necessary.
I think American stalls are larger BTW.
