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- March 21, 2009 at 12:59 #10678
What are the rules regarding a horse being nominated as a non-runner, by the trainer, after having been declared to run?
Am I right in thinking the trainer can self-certificate (as opposed to a vet’s cert) stating a reason a horse can’t run? Are their restrictions on what is acceptable?
Is there any kind of benefit (to trainer, or owner? or in betting terms) for declaring a horse to run, then giving it a non-runner? Does declarations (as oposed to actual starters) do anything to a trainer’s statistics? Is a horse qualified for anything if it is declared but doesn’t run? Does the trainer/owner still have to pay full entry fee?
March 21, 2009 at 14:08 #217672Tricast.
Normally a bet only for handicaps. If 8+ runners are declared, then a tricast is still a valid bet, even if there are N/R’s. I’m waiting for an 8+ runner handicap race reduced to 3 runners.

Backing two runners is the relentless pursuit of value. Backing each way is a shortcut to the poor house. Only 7% make a long term profit.
March 21, 2009 at 14:57 #217675Yes, the trainer can self certify, but the horse cannot run anywhere for six days after that – with a vets certificate, it can even run the next day.
The other justification for a non runner is going change.
The owner still pays the entry fee even if the horse doesn’t run, but of course saves on the cost of transport and the riding fee.
March 21, 2009 at 15:10 #217679But I guess it could affect jockeys detrimentaly if engaged to ride a horse that becomes a non-runner, and they can’t get on an alternative mount, or to another meeting? Do they only get any riding fee at all if actualy get on the horse?
March 21, 2009 at 16:28 #217695You use to recieve the riding fee on weighing out for a ride. However i think that it has changed and that you have to come under orders at the start.
No ride = no fee, so if you are jocked off at the races by another jockey you get nothing, and if it was your only ride you would incur costs such as travel.
March 21, 2009 at 19:03 #217728Tricast.
Normally a bet only for handicaps. If 8+ runners are declared, then a tricast is still a valid bet, even if there are N/R’s. I’m waiting for an 8+ runner handicap race reduced to 3 runners.

Close one today, Quad
Theres a 12 runner handicap at Haydock (15:45) thats been reduced to 5!
March 22, 2009 at 15:58 #217854Quad
Sorry to pour cold water over your fiendish scheme, but a race ceases to be a tricast race when there are less than 6 runners.
Any tricasts placed on such races (yesterday’s 3.45 Haydock, for example) become forecasts on the first 2 name selections.
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