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Fair enough Rory and I take your points, personally taking a long term view betting-wise I wouldn’t need all the boxes ticked at the available price for such an unexposed horse with the proven back class that Royal and Regal has.
I’m a regular listener and by and large you guys do a good job so apologies for any perceived tetchiness (I’m a bit stressed and sleep deprived at the moment
)Timeform have their uses

No worries Cav – you can teach me plenty, I’m sure. Someone on another forum was going to back R&R at Leopardstown over Christmas so I launched into a diatribe about how desperate the Comer operation was. My advice looked well enough founded when he ran moderately, but the fact that Comer trained the winner rather undermined me!
That was going to be me I think (on TH?) until you & others thankfully put me off!
CR,
Strange you would have considered backing either. 200/1 wouldn’t be value, imho.
Royal and Regal seems to have a very definite physical problem, and is a shadow of the horse of 2 years back – I was a big fan then.

How do you get different stakes (1 pt win, 1/2 pt place) with traditional bookmakers?
‘Mixed it with the best around’
When exactly?
When getting nearly 2 stone?
When getting annhilated by Kauto Star?
They said they were talking to both AP and Barry about this so guess it’s up in the air.
There is no way Barber’s Shop has a much better chance than Petit Robin – Trabquil Sea my main bet but you would have to back Petit Robin at these prices.
it’s still more or less the same if you fancy him.
Agree.I’ve backed him for quite a bit at 23, thinking his price will come in quite a bit in the coming days.
Paddy Power refunding all losing win bets if Dunguib wins
Does this apply to ante-post bets too, or just on the day? I took 14/1 about Get Me Out of Here with PP right after the Totesport, and would ove to think it’s a bet to nothing.
I was thinking of going in on the same horse with pP at 10s because of this concession – more than generous I think.
I think the horses had a different preparation for Cheltenham, and Binocular is apparently a horse who needs a lot of work.
I’m not saying Binocular doesn’t act on the course. But he has been beaten twice over C&D, and it’s
possible
that he may not run up to his very best at Cheltenham.
Possibly. Whilst I don’t completely disagree with what you are saying, I get the impression Binocular was left a little short of work due to the bad weather (Henderson apparently of the same opinion) and the first year McCoy rode him against his strengths (he has rode him differently since). Of course, these 2 points could be construed as excuses but the Bula should tell all.
Ruby apparently not taking up his rides at Kempton CH.
Glenn, are you aware of the monthly magazine
RACING AHEAD
?
An excellent little magazine and the names of a number of the contributors might be familiar to you.
Colin
I think excellent is wide of the mark. The main team behind it seem driven and know what they are speaking of, and I hope they do well in that sense. But, many of the articles are written by people with little journalistic ability, the content is mixed in terms of quality, and the presentation could be better. Their customer service was atrocious when I was of the mind £27 (or whatever it is) was worth it for 12 issues by email, only for them to first of all to forget to send me the link for the month’s issue, and then to ignore my emails asking them where my link to the edition was.
I think a general smartening up, and removal of people writing articles who have little insight into the vagaries of horse racing and even less ability to write would serve them well; one gets the impression anyone who emailed the editor got a slot.
At least 16 runners? I very much doubt that but look forward to you listing them.
Fair dues to Fist, who is doing very well indeed.
This thread would be better without attempts to put down his bets.
The Guardian has the best racing journalist bar none, Greg Wood. They also get Lydia Hislop in from time to time. Chris Cook and Tony Paley do a good job. Their racecards, results, odds, racing info all come from The Sporting Life and Oddschecker with none of the bells and whistles, so the interface is fast and clean. They usually have a good daily blog from the big meetings as well as a weekly tipping competition with a decent prize.
They have the best racing coverage of any newspaper by some way imo.
Couldn’t put it better myself – top class.
In a similar vein, are either of you likely to be at the Great British Beer Festival in three weeks’ time?
gc
Hi Jeremy,
I’ve just seen this now. Did you go, and how was it?
I went once, it must have been 3 or 4 years ago. What a great evening, and believe it nor not Clive, not many students around(!) – mostly twenty or thirty somethings. Good concept, whereby you pay a deposit for a pint glass with a handle, and hand this over at various bars, selling beer from different countries. I was certainly worse for wear at the end of the night, and struggled to Goodwood the next day to see Ouija Board beat Alexander Goldrun. Good times!
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