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- March 11, 2010 at 12:28 #281675
Thanks Alan, I’m in the picture now (finally
)Fair enough Rory and I take your points, personally taking a long term view betting-wise I wouldn’t need all the boxes ticked at the available price for such an unexposed horse with the proven back class that Royal and Regal has.
I’m a regular listener and by and large you guys do a good job so apologies for any perceived tetchiness (I’m a bit stressed and sleep deprived at the moment
)Timeform have their uses
March 11, 2010 at 12:46 #281683CR,
Strange you would have considered backing either. 200/1 wouldn’t be value, imho.
Royal and Regal seems to have a very definite physical problem, and is a shadow of the horse of 2 years back – I was a big fan then.
March 11, 2010 at 17:27 #281740Kargali is also entered in the Gladness (7f Flat) on April 11. Similar race, you know….
March 11, 2010 at 19:29 #281762Fair enough Rory and I take your points, personally taking a long term view betting-wise I wouldn’t need all the boxes ticked at the available price for such an unexposed horse with the proven back class that Royal and Regal has.
I’m a regular listener and by and large you guys do a good job so apologies for any perceived tetchiness (I’m a bit stressed and sleep deprived at the moment
)Timeform have their uses

No worries Cav – you can teach me plenty, I’m sure. Someone on another forum was going to back R&R at Leopardstown over Christmas so I launched into a diatribe about how desperate the Comer operation was. My advice looked well enough founded when he ran moderately, but the fact that Comer trained the winner rather undermined me!
March 11, 2010 at 19:44 #281765Quite Rory, and I’ve have had Kings Bastion as even less likely to make a hurdler than Royal and Regal.
March 12, 2010 at 10:39 #281845Fair enough Rory and I take your points, personally taking a long term view betting-wise I wouldn’t need all the boxes ticked at the available price for such an unexposed horse with the proven back class that Royal and Regal has.
I’m a regular listener and by and large you guys do a good job so apologies for any perceived tetchiness (I’m a bit stressed and sleep deprived at the moment
)Timeform have their uses

No worries Cav – you can teach me plenty, I’m sure. Someone on another forum was going to back R&R at Leopardstown over Christmas so I launched into a diatribe about how desperate the Comer operation was. My advice looked well enough founded when he ran moderately, but the fact that Comer trained the winner rather undermined me!
That was going to be me I think (on TH?) until you & others thankfully put me off!
March 12, 2010 at 10:55 #281847The laughable thing with the 130 rated rule is, an exposed horse rated 130 has about as much chance of winning as one of Fergus Wilson’s no hopers. I fail to see what it does other than improving the quality of no hopers.
Wilson’s no hopers were at least once capable of running to a 130 mark.
I had Turnium on a high of 152 and off 143 when he was moved to the UK (whether he could win off that mark is another matter), Astonville on a high of 151 and off 141 when he came over (same applies here regarding victory off that mark).
I can’t speak for Wilson’s more recent acquisitions – particularly the unfortunate Maidstone Mixture who he seems intent on running as many times as possible.
The Comer horses are highly unlikely to ever achieve such a lofty mark as 130 let alone handicap marks in the 40’s and low 50’s.
March 12, 2010 at 19:06 #281978I can’t speak for Wilson’s more recent acquisitions – particularly the unfortunate Maidstone Mixture who he seems intent on running as many times as possible.
…including in the Cross Country Chase from 44lb out of the weights, I notice.
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March 12, 2010 at 21:52 #282000Not to mention being rated 101lbs lower than Kauto in the Bet £3.65 Gold Cup.
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