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I was referring to whether it’s the trend, not whether it’s sad.
Imo it is the trend in England, Ireland and America. Of course not all connections follow this, but many. Godolphin is an example for a stable that doesn’t retire the horses too soon.
Horses also run longer in Germany, South Africa, Australia…these are the countries that cross my mind now, I’m sure there are more.It’s sad but it’s the trend to retire horses earlier and earlier.
Is it?
Yes and it’s brutal to take a 2yo to stud.
Thoroughbreds are born to run, not to breed.It’s sad but it’s the trend to retire horses earlier and earlier.
I don’t think it’s good for horse racing, it’s only good for the breeding industry and it makes breeders and owners rich. But I don’t care about the breeding industry, I wanna see the horses run.
If this nonsense continues we will see 2yo races only one day…
I don’t remember a BC without any breakdowns or other accidents. And this really sucks! Think next year I won’t watch it anymore…
What a black day for Europe at Monmouth. Everything went wrong. And now this. RIP George
The Breeders Cup just doesn’t do it for me anymore, the Turf races in recent years have been bereft of quality, just one look at this years turf and Dylan Thomas to me should be 1/3 not 4/5, he could win this race running 6lb below his best, it looks no more competitive than a decent Group 3. High Chaparral & Ouija Boards victories were to me absoluete penalty kicks, similar standard of race. Its seems the cream of Europe are just not travelling anymore to take each other on, too many other nice pots around the world as distractions like Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore & Dubai, and also the best of the home contingent run in the dirt races.
Seems we will never see a Turf Mile like Royal Academy’s victory again a race that had a host of Europes top milers in opposition.I agree. As mentioned it’s not a world championship, it’s an American championship with some guests. It’s interseting from a betting standpoint because there are so many longshots.
Thanks Nitro.
I have only looked at the Classic card. My thoughts were that you need a horse with the pace to win over a mile but stays 10f really well (If not 12f). Of those on the card I thought Street Sense looked the most likely winner.
Just watched today’s races and it looked more like swimming than running.
So I guess the dirt track will be sloppy tomorrow and that should help the frontrunners.Picture the setting…Ascot, Going: Good. A warm summers day. A group 1 1m2f race…this is the card:
1. Manduro
2. Ouija Board
3. Deep Impact
4. Invasor
5. George Washington
6. Dylan Thomas
7. Hurricane Run
8. Shirocco
9. Authorized
10. Rail Link
11. Hearts Cryimagine they are all on form, in their prime. I have chosen a few horses who have big races over the past couple of years, feel free to add some more to this super race!!
Superfecta:
1st Ouija Board
2nd Shirocco
3rd Manduro
4th Hurricane RunLiterato’s win made it really G1 worth. What a monster – 11 starts 9 wins 2 2nd places now! One of the best horses in training worldwide, it’s a pitty that he doesn’t run in the Breeder’s Cup.
George runs in the Breeders Cup Classic.
It’s good news that at least one European horse runs in the Classic now.
On the other hand I don’t think that George will win it, he already failed last year, he’s better on turf.or most overrated…
1. The clock. Limited application. Anything above 1m seems worthless to me and over the jumps its
2. Trends and stats. Without any logic to back them up…forget it.
3. Jockeys opinion. Stunted simpleton says "he could go round again!". yeah yeah
4. Jockey form. Should relate to just to their convictions
5. The market. Blind following the blind…?.
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The boys in blue seem to have got their act together. After a very strong September, their Strike rate in the early part of October, this week especially is incredible. 4 wins today, with Jalil to come in the next at Lingfield. It’s also been quite sometime since they had a 2 year old G1 winner.
The horse of theirs that really interests me is Ibn Khaldun, who runs in the Autumn Stakes at Ascot tomorrow. I think this is a colt of some potential, and won his last race with ridiculous ease. Whilst he will have to continue improving to reach the greats to which his breeding entitles him, he seems to possess the necessary attributes.
I would have liked to see him in the Dewhurst, but am nevertheless very much looking forward to tomorrow. Yahrab may be a danger but the Royal Lodge looks very suspect for now, with such a bunched finish.
Yes, but why don’t my Seven Stars horses never run or win?
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OddsSomeone mentioned Torsten Mundry, imo he`s the best jockey riding in Germany with plenty of international experience,only problem, he doesn`t have the horse to win the race! SADDEX is very decent but this is another level,lto he beat FIRST STREAM (Everybody beats First Stream) and the out and out stayer BUSSONI in a 5 horse race, i really rate his trainer Peter Rau but ive seen enough of this horse to catagorically state he has at least 12lbs to find!!
Frankie has a bit of a task from start box 12,however,with plenty of pace he should manage to get a nice sit and like we saw at Epsom AUTHORISED as a real turn of foot,i would fancy ZAMBEZI SUN to reverse the form with SOLDIER OF FORTUNE, people critiscise O`Brien because his horses don`t always appear to run on their merit,however,take a look at the ZAMBESI SUN farce last time out, he was being treated like an unraced 2-y-o,he`s certainly better than that!
AUTHORISED-ZAMBESI SUN-SOLDIER OF FORTUNE in that order for me!!
Well, I think Saddex DOES have a chance to win. Just bet him at 22-1. He is unbeaten in 3 starts this year, one G1 and two G2 races. He’s 3 for 3 on soft ground, he has won 6 of his 11 carreer starts, he was a close 4th in the GermanDerby last year and as you mentioned Mundry is a very good jockey. It doesn’t make much sense to bet the favorites here imo. Good luck!
Isn’t it crazy that 50%(!!!) of the field are trained by O’Brien?
Wonder why other trainers don’t send more horses.
No doubt, there is quality in the race. But I miss quantity. Remember Arc races with 20 horses fields…
