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It is obvious he needs to learn to settle better, he expends way too much energy at the early stages of a race, and the jockey is fighting to restrain him. A stronger gallop would allow him to settle better, thus not using up so much energy early on in a race.
Therefore, either two things need to happen, Cue Card needs to settle better, or he needs a little luck to have a stronger gallop in the races he is involved in.
As I said, he is a novice, only four years old, and to write him off so early is a little premature. I didn’t even need to quote your last post, yours was the one prior to mine.
JohnJ
Bit quick to be writing him off, first time out of novice company on his third start over hurdles. The time of today’s race was quite slow, which would not play to his strengths. You and your mate Fist are oh so quick to write horses off, not horses that are exposed but novices!
JohnJ
Two decent trials yesterday and today for the RSA. Reve de Sivola was workmanlike in winning the 2m5f race yesterday, and should improve as the season progresses. One could not have been more impressed with Time for Rupert’s win today in the 3m chase, foot perfect over his obstacles, tonnes of stamina, and with a rating of 166 over hurdles this horse looks very exciting for this season and potentially a Gold Cup horse of the future.
JohnJ
Dermot Weld has said that Rite of Passage will not be campaigned over hurdles this season.
JohnJ
IC,
I think HF is a high class horse, however it is difficult to get a firm handle on his form considering he hasn’t raced outside Ireland since coming over to Ireland from France. I know you could use Solwhit as a benchmark, but I don’t think beating the likes of Donnas Palm and Sublimity in bog like conditions on the bridle in December and January is top class form.
I also think that the last four renewals of the Champion Hurdle have not been that strong, Katchit, Sublimity and Pujabi were not out of the top drawer, although Binocular put in a very impressive performance last season. The novices coming through from last year look top notch, Menorah, Peddlers Cross and Cue Card have all achieved a rating above 160 and look like they have further improvement.
I think on balance the horses across the water are ahead of Hurricane Fly and the other Irish Horses, but of course, I could be totally incorrect.
JohnJ
Get a life and stop being so damn ignorant man.
My dear fellow, if there anyone who is damn ignorant its your good self. You said that Hobbs was in cloud cuckoo land if he thought that Menorah could be aimed at a Champion Hurdle. This horse has improved the guts of 15lbs from his novice season, and I expect he will improve another 7-8lbs given his optimum conditions of good ground and a strong pace. This level of improvement will bring him into the region of the 173 that Binocular achieved in his blistering performance in last season’s CH.
I don’t expect you to understand this, because of your stupidity and inability to comprehend a decent well balanced difference in opinion to the arguments that you make. I expect you will just bellow out the usual Johnjo, AP, Nicky crap.
For what it’s worth I think Peddlers Cross is the best prospect for the Champion Hurdle. Hurricane Fly and Solwhit are the most over rated Irish Hurdlers I can remember, the proximity of Thousand Stars at the Punchestown festival would indicate this.
JohnJ
IC,
As much as I am looking forward to seeing Solwhit and Hurricane Fly, I really cannot see them involved in the shake up come March. I think the form of the Punchestown hurdle is not really that good in all honesty. The proximity of Thousand Stars makes the race a little suspect IMO, I could not have Thousand Stars rated 163. I think the Champion Hurdle is between the horses across the water.
Fist,
You’re cracking me up! Cue Card runs his third race over hurdles against horses with a helluva lot more experience than him, and he is done improving, utter nonsense.
JohnJ
I will be astonished if Menorah does not finish in the first three come March, he is a seriously good horse. He won the supreme novice easily, he idled when he hit the front, I don’t think he fell over the line as you put it, his Ascot run was in a race with hardly any pace, he was beaten after half a mile.
JohnJ
Not as much of a joker as you considering you suggested Hobbs was in cloud cuckoo land if he
thought
he could win a champion hurdle with Menorah.
JohnJ
Didn’t think the race would suit Menorah, was a bit of a muddling race, however, you cannot be impressed by that performance. Cue Card will have learned a lot from that race today.
JohnJ
Menorah I can’t have Philip Hobbs is in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks he’ll win a Champion Hurdle.
LMFAO
I don’t want to tempt fate Kasp but isn’t that a bit Irish?
Not trying to be overly PC here, but one could consider that comment as quite offensive.
JohnJ
I think the current King George winner wasn’t too clever when he arrived from France, his jumping has dramatically improved as his career progressed, apart from Cheltenham last year.
I am not suggesting that Long Run is a future Gold Cup winner, again, you totally miss the point I am making, what I am suggesting is that he could improve.
Yeah Fist, its always worthwhile looking at the merits of a race before its been run rather than after the race to judge how good that race actually was. Personally I will reserve judgement until after this years King George to firm up my opinion.
P.S. What is a numbnuts? Keep going Fisty, bang bang on that air gun of yours…
I have to say I am a little undecided about Silviniaco Conti, not sure how good that race was at Ascot, I reckon the trip maybe too short for the Nicholls horse, but I guess we will find out on Saturday.
In relation to Menorah, he needs a fast pace and will require decent ground, as seen when he was kept wide throughout the Greatwood.
As for the young pretender, Cue Card, I think he is a very special horse. He has confirmed his ability to jump a hurdle, he beat a 140 rated horse by 18 lengths on the bridle, it could have been 40 lengths. I am not in favour of stepping novices up to meet their elders so soon, but in his case, I think it will only benefit his progression.
Cannot see past Cue Card for this.
JohnJ
If I may Euro….
23 Imperial Commander (IRE) 13/2 8 11-10 N A Twiston-Davies 174 110 144 — »
b g Flemensfirth (USA) – Ballinlovane (Le Moss) Paddy BrennanMistake 2nd and rider nearly off, dropped to last trio and not always fluent after, never able to recover, reached remote 6th at 15th (op 8-1)
Cannot believe you are using IC to back up your argument Fist, he ran nothing like he ran when he won Gold Cup.
Keep shooting out of your air gun, your bound to hit something soon.
JohnJ
Only a matter of time until one of Nicky’s less fancied horses finishes ahead of Long Run and people like you and Walley Cohen get the messsage.
As usual Fist you completely miss my point and continue to blow hot air. The horse is a five year old and in the infancy of his career. You seem consistently able to dismiss horses in the early stages of their careers.
Just to be clear, I don’t think Long Run will beat Kauto Star at Kempton.
JohnJ
