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You don’t need a long memory to wonder about the merit of TAPK’s posts.
And yours is that short you cant remember what i posted yesterday you div! Go and read "The Kings Selections" and then question the merit of my posts! Dont read "Prophet with an F" it"ll just go over your head.In fact who the **** are you? I dont remember a single worthy contribution from you Stivi,i mean Divvy!
It is obvious he needs to learn to settle better, he expends way too much energy at the early stages of a race, and the jockey is fighting to restrain him. A stronger gallop would allow him to settle better, thus not using up so much energy early on in a race.
Therefore, either two things need to happen, Cue Card needs to settle better, or he needs a little luck to have a stronger gallop in the races he is involved in.
As I said, he is a novice, only four years old, and to write him off so early is a little premature. I didn’t even need to quote your last post, yours was the one prior to mine.
JohnJ
I do need to quote your last post as yours is 2 above mine!
Cue Card wont settle anymore than he does now thats him,he was keen for the 1st 300yds yesterday then settled into his usual rythm,an ungainly one at that! His jockey looks like Fred Archer riding him,virtually stood up in the saddle distributing way too much weight over his neck,he travels like a class horse but then again he has never ran in a race with a end to end gallop,those races he has pulled in have been ran at a crawl,a faster gallop would only have his jockey encouraging Cue Card for more effort taking him out of his comfort zone and ultimately the horse would just run on at the one pace! This fellow has no turn of foot to compete with the big boys and as yesterday proved he wont find Zilch off the bridle,Menorah zipped past him yesterday and made him look positively one paced! The only horse who would have benefitted from a faster pace,(The pacemaker did nothing) was Silviniaco Conti and he wont win the champion hurdle either! We"ll see John! 
On that basis we could have have written off Menorah when he got beaten by Lush Life at Ascot last season. I myself won’t be writing him off just yet, considering he is a novice and novices are entitled to improve.
JohnJ
On that basis we could have have written off Menorah when he got beaten by Lush Life at Ascot last season. I myself won’t be writing him off just yet, considering he is a novice and novices are entitled to improve.
JohnJ
Well hindsight is a wonderful thing John but that form certainly looks decent now,Lush life is a Coral Cup winner in waiting and for Menorah to give him 10lb that day like i say looks far better now! 11-12 stops horses even Denman!
You don’t need a long memory to wonder about the merit of TAPK’s posts.
And yours is that short you cant remember what i posted yesterday you div! Go and read "The Kings Selections" and then question the merit of my posts! Dont read "Prophet with an F" it"ll just go over your head.In fact who the **** are you? I dont remember a single worthy contribution from you Stivi,i mean Divvy!
Oh dear. Cheap insults and swearing just about sums you up. Do I really want at look at your postings every day – anyone who read your recent nonsense about Frankel wouldn’t give them a second thought. Please carry on fooling yourself.
Oh dear. Cheap insults and swearing just about sums you up. Do I really want at look at your postings every day – anyone who read your recent nonsense about Frankel wouldn’t give them a second thought. Please carry on fooling yourself.
Apologies for the swearing! When Frankel wins the 2000gns and then THE DERBY just like connections,punters,bandwagon jumpers,media all said he would initially,although it looks like the majority have changed their mind about the latter then he becomes a superstar! When he does that,then i have spoken nonsense! I"m quietly confident we have seen the best of him! You wouldn"t have read my post on
Workforce
"being a Machine" before he even set foot on the racecourse this year or that
Harbinger
would win the King George a year ago,or even
Diamond Harry
would win the Hennessey last January! what about
Evens and Odds
being "laid out" quote for the Stewards Cup at 33/1!
Imperial Commander
12/1 Gold Cup??
Weapons Amnesty
12/1 RSA???
Albertas Run
90"s
down to 25/1 for the Ryanair???? Thought not! You strike me as the sort who likes Marmite on your soldiers?
TAPK,
Why does every thread have to descend into you banging on about the horses you have backed and won? I can name three threads that started out as intelligent debate about a subject, only for you to sprout on about your strike rate or successful exploits in the Ante Post market.
I congratulate you in your successful punts, and in no way am I jealous of your profits, however banging on about it all the time is rather boring.
JohnJ
TAPK,
Why does every thread have to descend into you banging on about the horses you have backed and won? I can name three threads that started out as intelligent debate about a subject, only for you to sprout on about your strike rate or successful exploits in the Ante Post market.
I congratulate you in your successful punts, and in no way am I jealous of your profits, however banging on about it all the time is rather boring.
JohnJ
John, since i joined this forum 2 years ago,i like to think i have contributed a consistent, somewhat unique and different approach to the majority on here about gambling on horses! Its quite simply Ante-Post betting can be successful,i know i sound like a bit of a preacher man but i am passionate about it! You know as well as i do most who gamble lose,i have proved consistently that i win and i try to inspire those who feel self doubts are getting to them that Confidence is King,you just cant be involved if you lack that! Jealousy is a word you mention not i but it manifests its ugly head in many ways,human nature has always been to criticise those who are achievers! I find its a lot easier taking flak for my success than it would be for my failure! I also believe in showing appreciation so thanks for the complimentary bit too!
What price would Peddlars Cross by if it were trained by Nicky Henderson, why does everybody have such a short memory why did Binocular run 20lbs below its best in the 2008 Champion hurdle, still never explained!
Hurricane Fly is exciting but its injuries worry me and menorah looks good and tough!Well, as nice a horses as Menorah and Peddlers undoubtedly are, I’m now more convinced than ever that if Binocular and Hurricane Fly turn up fit and well it’s a two horse race.
Being a huge Peddlers Cross fan I am still sticking by the winning machine although i must say menorah looks more impressive every race this season and if he keeps going on this upward curve he is sure to run close in the big one, hurricane fly is the best hurdler over here in Ireland but i just dont fancy any horse to get by pedddlers cross from 2 or 3 out on the big day!!
Although Peddlers Cross has done nothing wrong, are people wanting to back him not slightly worried about the form in the fighting fifth being a little suspect? By this I’m really only referring to the proximity of Starluck. Nice horse that he is, the same thing happenned the year before I believe.
Binocular travelled as good as either of them until flattening out suggesting to me he badly needed the run. Okay, Peddlers Cross also needed the run apparently, so the the trainer would have it, however I just cant have that at all. That race was supposed to be all about finding out if PC was good enough to compete against the top 2milers. Surley they would of had him spot on with this in mind.
Menorah was very good the weekend but just how good is Cue Card? I get the impression nobody really knows. An impressive winner against Dunraven Storm but that might turn out to be very suspect. If Dunguib sticks to the 2 mile course this year instead of the 3 mile course he took last year and gets a top jockey to steer him, he could turn out to be much better value than Menorah.
Still has to be Binny in my eyes, I just hope he keeps losing until the festival, the bigger the price the more Guiness I can drink. Hurricane fly could maybe put a spanner in the works, but wouldnt want to be backing a horse who was supposed to take the last two champion hurdles by storm and didnt even show up.
Come on Binny!I think the proximity of Starluck enhances the form of the Fighting Fifth hurdle. I think Starluck ran up to his rating of 160 at Newbury, he is much better on a flat track. The time was not that brilliant, so he really did have conditions in his favour. Peddlers Cross is much better suited to racing at a strong pace, I also think he is better at Cheltenham.
I admit, I am biased as I think Peddlers is the one they all have to beat in March. However, I certainly would not discount Binocular who put in a fantastic performance last March. I think Menorah has kept improving and could potentially improve again. I think it will between these three horses if they turn up fit and well in March.
JohnJ
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As far as Bicocular goes he looks as good as ever we know he’s much better than Starluck but Peddlars has yet to be beaten and he’s probably the last type of horse Binocular would want to be taking on at Cheltenham.
The one thing about Binocular that worries me is he’s only ever won one fight in his life and that was as a novice. Captain Cee Bee outpointed him as did Punjabi and Celestial Halo.
As I said before last years race to win he has to go to the front early and use what speed he has to slip them. He then becomes a very horse to peg back because stamina has never been his problem.
There lies the problem because Donald McCain will be all for using the very same tactics as his fellow stays well beyond 2 miles.
My problem with Menorah is he may not have enough toe to follow them through. On rflection his race the other day was a bit wierd to be honest. He was being niggled to catch up one second and the next he shot past like he had a thunderbolt hit his backside. Our eyes often deceive us and I believe Cue Card stopped like shot and made Menorah’s burst of speed look much better than it actually was. One things for sure he’d need a thunderbolt to hit his backside to go past these two who simply don’t stop.
The one horse who has the speed and the fight to take them on is Hurrcane Fly. I know a couple of you have pointed out Thoasnad Stars was close to him but that race was run in such a manner there was never going to be a huge distance between the first few home.
Solwhit is as good as they come in these type of races and the fact Hurrcane Fly beat him quite easily in the end speaks volumes about the horse. I think a few people have forgotten just how easily he kicked Go Native into touch not once but twice when in between time Go natve was winning everything he was aimed at including the Supreme Novices at the Festival albeit by the skin of his teeth.
Fair to say Peddlars Cross is a few pounds better than Go Native on a line through Starluck but Hurrcane Fly beat Go Native pointless when they met.
Some bring up the fact he was off the course and say he’s injury prone. My reply to that is after a 6 month back he came back and proved he had lost none of his talent beating one of the best hurdlers in training. His injuries while they kept him off the track were minor and there’s very little chance they will come back to haunt him.
The fact Willie Mullins was going to run him the other day tells me he’s sound even if not 100% fit and hopefully he will stay that way.
The most likeable thing about Hurrcane Fly is he seems to be unperturbed by it all. They go slow or they go fast he seems to be able to travel well within himself and top it off with a power packed finish.
Binocular was chased home by Khyber Kim and Zaynar last year hell find these 2 a differnt proposition. One could be taking him on from the top of the hill and one could be stalking him like cat ready to pounce on a mouse.
I honestly think Peddlar’s Cross could outpoint Binocular if it comes to a fight but whether he can cope with Hurricane Fly’s devastaing turn of foot is very questionable. There is of course the chance they might burn him out but if he doesn’t find a 2nd gear it will be the first time in his life he hasn’t when fit.
I hope these 3 fight out the finish and my choice is Hurricane Fly for the reason’s stated but if Peddlar’s Cross goes there unbeaten and wins, because he would still be unbeaten he’ll be hailed as the new Persian War which would be great for racing.
As far as Bicocular goes he looks as good as ever we know he’s much better than Starluck but Peddlars has yet to be beaten and he’s probably the last type of horse Binocular would want to be taking on at Cheltenham.
The one thing about Binocular that worries me is he’s only ever won one fight in his life and that was as a novice. Captain Cee Bee outpointed him as did Punjabi and Celestial Halo.
As I said before last years race to win he has to go to the front early and use what speed he has to slip them. He then becomes a very horse to peg back because stamina has never been his problem.
There lies the problem because Donald McCain will be all for using the very same tactics as his fellow stays well beyond 2 miles.
My problem with Menorah is he may not have enough toe to follow them through. On rflection his race the other day was a bit wierd to be honest. He was being niggled to catch up one second and the next he shot past like he had a thunderbolt hit his backside. Our eyes often deceive us and I believe Cue Card stopped like shot and made Menorah’s burst of speed look much better than it actually was. One things for sure he’d need a thunderbolt to hit his backside to go past these two who simply don’t stop.
The one horse who has the speed and the fight to take them on is Hurrcane Fly. I know a couple of you have pointed out Thoasnad Stars was close to him but that race was run in such a manner there was never going to be a huge distance between the first few home.
Solwhit is as good as they come in these type of races and the fact Hurrcane Fly beat him quite easily in the end speaks volumes about the horse. I think a few people have forgotten just how easily he kicked Go Native into touch not once but twice when in between time Go natve was winning everything he was aimed at including the Supreme Novices at the Festival albeit by the skin of his teeth.
Fair to say Peddlars Cross is a few pounds better than Go Native on a line through Starluck but Hurrcane Fly beat Go Native pointless when they met.
Some bring up the fact he was off the course and say he’s injury prone. My reply to that is after a 6 month back he came back and proved he had lost none of his talent beating one of the best hurdlers in training. His injuries while they kept him off the track were minor and there’s very little chance they will come back to haunt him.
The fact Willie Mullins was going to run him the other day tells me he’s sound even if not 100% fit and hopefully he will stay that way.
The most likeable thing about Hurrcane Fly is he seems to be unperturbed by it all. They go slow or they go fast he seems to be able to travel well within himself and top it off with a power packed finish.
Binocular was chased home by Khyber Kim and Zaynar last year hell find these 2 a differnt proposition. One could be taking him on from the top of the hill and one could be stalking him like cat ready to pounce on a mouse.
I honestly think Peddlar’s Cross could outpoint Binocular if it comes to a fight but whether he can cope with Hurricane Fly’s devastaing turn of foot is very questionable. There is of course the chance they might burn him out but if he doesn’t find a 2nd gear it will be the first time in his life he hasn’t when fit.
I hope these 3 fight out the finish and my choice is Hurricane Fly for the reason’s stated but if Peddlar’s Cross goes there unbeaten and wins, because he would still be unbeaten he’ll be hailed as the new Persian War which would be great for racing.
Lovely stuff
If he turns up at the best of his ability, fit and well, then I find it very, very hard to see anyone beating Hurricane Fly.
Brilliant horse.
BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social
So don't run, just like the others always do
I must say hurricane fly was mighty impressive today. Unfortuantely i didnt have quite such a good day as I nearly got physically sick when Micheal D’agneut fell at Fairyhouse as i had a fourfold accumulater with winners in 3 of the previous races including hurricane fly that was about to earn me around 3,500 euro from my 50 euro bet, was about to have a very merry xmas but it wasnt to be!!
Cue Card wont settle anymore than he does now thats him,he was keen for the 1st 300yds yesterday then settled into his usual rythm,an ungainly one at that! His jockey looks like Fred Archer riding him,virtually stood up in the saddle distributing way too much weight over his neck,he travels like a class horse but then again he has never ran in a race with a end to end gallop,those races he has pulled in have been ran at a crawl,a faster gallop would only have his jockey encouraging Cue Card for more effort taking him out of his comfort zone and ultimately the horse would just run on at the one pace! This fellow has no turn of foot to compete with the big boys and as yesterday proved he wont find Zilch off the bridle,Menorah zipped past him yesterday and made him look positively one paced! The only horse who would have benefitted from a faster pace,(The pacemaker did nothing) was Silviniaco Conti and he wont win the champion hurdle either! We"ll see John! 
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