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Not to mention the hugely favourable Euro:Sterling rate at present! If I was an owner I’d be all for sending my horse to France Ireland if there was a suitable opportunity.
Sorry you are wrong there – unless you win!!
We used to keep yearlings in Ireland, but due to the £/€ exchange rate it is now much more expensive. Statistically, expenses in Euros will outweigh prize money won, unless you are lucky. In general owners recover a percentage of their expenses; a higher percentage in France than England, but less than 100% in all cases.
Why isn’t all British racing on one channel instead viewers having to pay 2 subscriptions to watch it?
I don’t pay for ATR. Except for the torture I have to endure while watching, such as adverts for loan sharks, and the fact that as a betting channel it shows the odds rather than the horses on many occasions, and almost never shows the horses in the parade ring.
And these figures of horses in training show who is REALLY funding racing.
The bookies put in about £80M
Owners put in about £18000 per horse per year, thats about £270M
That’t why the punters who moan about conspiracies to do them out of their £5 stakes are talking through their hats.
Fist, Aintree will be on the agenda after Cheltenham, as will Punchestown. That meeting is a favourite, Ferdy loves winners there and Kalahari won there the year before last.
Jeremy, it ia more appropriate to look at the time of year for Kalahari King’s best ratings, not the number of runs. The trainer tunes them up for a clear target at Cheltenham, and the runs along the way last year were more about getting experience than fitness.
CJB
The bloke said the course was raceable at 11am. The jockeys said it was unraceable at 11.30am
Go figure.
It snowed in between.
I was there and the Jockeys were concerned long before the snow came. A big problem was that the fences were frozen, don’t know if they had been covered up.
CJB
Punjabi wasn’t held up and never put in the race. There’s a difference between sending a horse out that will come on for the run and sending one out that you have no intention of trying to win with.
But De Boitron was definitely put into the race, and came 3rd. If he could have won he would have.
Still, those with the knives out try to make something of it….
How little they know!
I’ll be interested to see how De Boitron fares at Haydock tomorrow – given a less-than-strenuous re-introduction and drops four furlongs in distance at one of the sharpest courses in the country.
I can assure you that De Boitron would have been trying to win the race, same as he was at Market Rasen. The prize monet was well worthwhile for both races. At Market Rasen De Boitron was beaten by a horse that travelled behind him for most of the race. Maybe he should have been dropped further out of it, certainly the two that went on went too fast and paid the price by being caught on the run in.
Perhaps Media Gecko could suggest where he should be running, given a rating of 119 and a requirement in trip of 2 miles to 2m4f, and the location of the yard being in North Yorkshire. The last mentioned fact means that races at places like Exeter and Fontwell are out of the question.
Yes be very careful, it always amazes me what people say even though they have absolutely no personal knowledge of the characters involved.
I truly do not have any doubts about Ferdy’s integrity and character, and I have no problem doing business with him.
He receives a lot of criticism mainly due to the outspoken nature of his comments, and on occasions gets a backlash for speaking his mind. I have to say I frequently agree with him.
Fair point, I forgot Poker de Sivola. Is Pre Token still in training?
I don’t know that owner, so is it he who is moving the market for all FM runners (but not Pipes)?
And I know several owners who have horses at Ferdy’s and to suggest that they are putting big enough bets on their horses to move the markets is laughable, as is the concept that "the stable" (i.e a load of girls and boys earning barely over minimum wage) could move the market also.
The syndicate Manager for Galant Nuit looks at this forum, and whilst I am sure he was delighted to have the win, I would wager he didn’t have more than pocket money on the horse.
There is nobody with horses at FM’s yard who punts on anything like the scale of JP McManus, David Johnson, or Harry Findlay.
No, the punters on this thread are just making the stats fit their beliefs, and it seems £5 punters who bet on a 20/1 outsider that is pulled up are convinced that is a crooked run, when the odds already convey a low probability of winning.
As I said earlier (and was ignored) surely the doubtful operators are the ones pulling off the big priced winners, backed in by a load of money at the last minute.
I strongly suspect that many posters on this thread have no knowledge of racing except from their Betfair accounts or the time spent chatting to the manager of the local Ladbrokes.
If they ever got close enough to smell a racehorse, never mind touch one, they would know that trainers are only interested in winners and will take a win in a seller at Sedgefield if it’s possible, rather than line up betting plots for mysterious people that nobody seems able to identify for me.
CJB (no flat cap)
I am sure the horses are doing their best whether or not some punters place their bets. I am just curious to know who is supposed to be backing in the horses when comments are made like:
"If they aren’t backed they won’t win."
and
"the Murphy yard IMO is generally one where the money talks."
and
"You can kiss your money goodbye, just 3 wins from 207 tries if the horse is held up and the money isn’t down."
The Galant Nuit referral went nowhere, as was correct. The horse was top rated by Timeform going into that race, and the previous run at Cheltenham, with an amateur rider on board, gave a good indication of the likelihood of a win, hence the price. Compare the performance of the winner of the same race at Cheltenham the previous year
