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  • #13561
    Glenn
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    – Tellwrong getting punters into his bar before calling off the sideshow to the drinking some had turned up for at 12.20.

    – The race planners putting back Lingfield’s start by five minutes, so that said drinkers would have time to place their dough on the paper fav trained by David Evans

    – drinkers watch their dough go down the drain as the name your price and stake job gets no ‘luck’ in running, while a horse who was unplaced last time under an Adrian McCarthy special suddenly wakes up to win it.

    None of this would have been possible without everyone in racing pulling together from Scotney to Tellwrong to the Race Timing Man.

    #264523
    Avatar photoricky lake
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    sure Glen , wonder how many favs will win today on the Sand

    I for one wont be getting involved , pity the poor mugs in the betting shops

    Ricky

    #264524
    jumpsfan
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    I’d like to say well done to Haydock for trying to get racing on before all the know-it-alls put the boot in.

    #264529
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    Another inspiring positive post from Glenn!

    Haydock did their level best to get racing on but weather conditions eventually conspired against them. Don’t the hindsight smart*rses know it all?

    Rob

    #264530
    stilvi
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    Given the alternatives full marks to Haydock for trying their best to get the card on.

    #264536
    Anonymous
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    Credit to Haydock indeed – the clerk’s assurance at 11.25am that racing would go ahead when jockeys were describing the ground as ‘unraceable’ was particularly praise-worthy.

    #264537
    davidjohnson
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    Tellwright should never have given the all clear when all anecdotal evidence I’m geting from the track suggests it wasn’t raceable when he gave it the all clear.

    #264539
    Glenn
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    Precisely DJ. The main point being that the anecdotal evidence would have been from independent witnesses with no vested interest in as many racegoers turning up as possible.

    It’s fairly well established that Tellwrong has a postmodernist disdain for what some of us might term objective reality when describing the state of his course. Is he really the man to be giving the official pronouncements on the likliehood of racing going ahead?

    I’m not saying they shouldn’t try to save the fixture, though there’s an argument they shouldn’t. I’m saying someone independent should be giving the assesments on racing going ahead.

    #264540
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    The only thing that this requires is someone to lose there job.

    Honestly what are the British Racing body doing….these guys geting paid huge sums yet refuse to look under the covers until 11 a hour or so before racing.

    The BHA are useless at everything they touch….heard about the LONG WALK being put on Mid Week.

    Incredible!!!!

    #264542
    Avatar photoCav
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    Fair play to them for trying their best but that shouldn’t distract from poor judgement (again) at Haydock. You just have to resign yourself to serial incompetence at times.

    No big deal in the grand scheme of things. Enjoy the snow, I’m jealous.

    #264544
    Anonymous
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    Even my schoolboy physics indicated that if you take the covers off when the air is still freezing there’s only one outcome.
    It’s the poor saps who’ve climbed into their cars, unaware of KT’s previous, that you have to feel sorry for.

    #264554
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Can see both points of view here.

    IMO:
    Pro’s:
    Haydock did a fantastic job at trying to get racing on. It is right that every effort is made. Temperatures were forcast to be quite a bit higher than they were in the morning. So if that would’ve been the case, when covers were removed the frost should not have got in. Snow was not forecast either.

    Cons:
    There are reports of temperatures being much lower overnight (in the stable block) than official.
    There are reports that only some covers were looked under in the early morning. Had the problem areas been looked at earlier, it may have been possible to call it off earlier.

    Those splinters don’t half hurt! :shock:

    Value Is Everything
    #264555
    Avatar photoPompete
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    …what are the British Racing body doing….these guys geting paid huge sums yet refuse to look under the covers until 11 a hour or so before racing.

    The BHA are useless at everything they touch

    How exactly are the BHA responsible for what happened today?

    #264559
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    BHA should make sure that this situation could not arise. Obviously the clerk should been held responisble but when you have some many people coming to the races and then told its off the Govering Body has to take responsibilty

    #264561
    % MAN
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    BHA should make sure that this situation could not arise. Obviously the clerk should been held responisble but when you have some many people coming to the races and then told its off the Govering Body has to take responsibilty

    You still have not said why the BHA are responsible – what should they have done differently.

    Have you actually read the rules of racing where responsinilities are defined?

    Having said that, and I know I have said this many times before, it is time that responsibility for making the decision to race needs to be taken away from the clerks or indeed the courses and transferred to an authority independedent of the vested interests at the course.

    Telwright’s attempt at passing the buck onto the forecasters is a disgrace. He is the one who made the calls and the biggest mistake was he passed the course fit early in the morning when the more prudent move would have been to announce a further inspection at 10:00.

    Yes hindsight is great – but not for the first time it seemes the view of the Clerk of the Course is somewhat more rose tinted than more dispassionate viewers at the track

    Also I believe it should be written into the rules that if a track is not fit for racing 1 1/2 hours before the first race then the meeting should be called off.

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    Ricky, you’re always complaing about the AW and its alleged unreliablilty.

    I went to three meetings at Southwell this week and bet at Lingers and Wolver today. We must be betting on different races because every time I bet on the AW the race is won by the favourite or a well backed animal. I nearly saw a bookie cry yesterday at the sandpit after Hit The Switch went in. I’ve never seen anything like it -scrap gold doesn’t have the rags to riches potential of racing on artifical surfaces in deep midwinter.

    If I posted a moaning b****rd thread (like I did last Friday, sorry fellas), with the same frequency as you and Glenn post your personal conspiracy theories, I’d soon be picked up on it. The evidence just isn’t backing your assertions.

    Saying that, I did find Glenn’s opening post very amusing in a did-we-really-land-on-the-moon kind of way

    #264568
    % MAN
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    Glenn – how do you explain 21 Scoop6 winners this week?

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