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SAY NO MORE.
Max, fair enough , and good for you , my comments are mainly aimed at the antics at leafy , however I will not retract at all , come the end of March those victims should there be any left will be regretting their winter experience
enjoy the best sweet shop in the world , at least the worst thing that can happen is a swift visit to the dentist
cheers
Ricky
The BHA are useless at everything they touch….heard about the LONG WALK being put on Mid Week.
Incredible
!!!!
Whats wrong with that?
Its a well atended meeting when many are on holiday
Whats the problem?
Haydock might have mucked it up a bit today, but does this really happen so often that everyone should get in a lather about it.
Cannot understand the BHA point at all. If you give someone responsibility then you have to give them the authority too. One of the most basic rules of management
I can accept Haydock being cancelled today but it’s pretty poor form to wait until half an hour before racing to do it.
And after the bullish quote on The Morning Line this morning, ‘of course Haydock is racing, we’re Northern’, they’ve just made themselves look like idiots.
Incidentally, I stood at Manchester Piccadilly station this morning & I actually flipped a coin to decide whether to go up to Wigan or down to Wolverhampton. Luckily it landed tails so I went all weathering. I’d never been before so that was something new.
I know alot of people on here hate all weather racing but can I say Wolverhampton deserve a bit of credit today? Getting an eight race card together in such a short space of time (and the quality wasn’t bad considering the circumstances) & then letting the punters in for free. Well done I say.
Agree with you Anthony, people may call the AW but Wolverhampton is a nice day out and a very underated place to go racing, if Hay abandoned first thing then i would have gone myself.
I was at Haydock just after 11 and all seemed ok then at about 11.30 the snow started, just a light dust i thought then when Mark Your Card came on in the AM Bar we sat and watched the drama unfold and it became aparent that our meeting was going to be called off.
Their was nothing that could be done, it was nature and nothing else, you can change many things but not the weather and unless you pour a load of antifreeze on the course nothing can change what will happen to the ground.
At 12.30 after having a cuppa, myself and two friends decided to pick a dog each in the 12.33 at Romford and have a £1 in the pot so if our selection won then we would get £3, sadly none of ours won so we got our pound back.
Walked into Golborne in the snow and caught the bus to Leigh and watched Leigh Genesis play AFC Fylde in the Unibond League Div 1 North, A good game with Leigh winning 4-1 after being 3-0 up at half time.
So managed to salvage something from the day, even if it meant being in a crowd of 151 wearing a big Bronte countryside jacket watching lower league football.
Dissapointed to lose Haydock but such is life, just wait till the next one comes along.
Rickster, the guy from Beverley who ran the sweet shop has sold up unfortunately. He was a nice fella, a proper confectioner of the old school, who always threw in a couple extra, liked a natter and a punt and knew what a real midget gem was! The new guys? They can only improve…
Some Southwell stats. Since the 21st October, there have been 14 meetings and around 99 races (my notes may be missing a couple of races.) Only once (15/12) has there been a wipeout for punters. All meetings bar one have at least two winning favourites. 37 races have gone to the favourite overall and 60% of the races have gone to the first two in the market. I don’t have the software to calculate LSP but there have been some good prices. I’ve done some sequence work; Martingale adherents would be having their shoulders stroked by some dusky beauty at the Sandy Lane this Christmas. At the last two meetings, 50% of the favourites have done the business plus three well backed second favourites.
I’ve never felt sorry for a bookie before but one young lad was close to tears after Hit The Switch went in punted from 7/2 into 2/1. I know at least ten significant punters who backed the horse and there were cheers all round the stands.
I’m not aftertiming here, I’ve had my worst season ever – when bookies cry, so do I – but next year, I’m not ignoring these stats. No chance. This happened in 2007 too only with an even higher favourites index.
The reasons? So few horses act round the sandpit, cameras everywhere, BHA gauleiters on their Prisoner-style observation see-saws watching every drift, and the ability to punt your horse anonymously to significant sums. It’s the Yukon up here. Wonder what will happen in January?
Cheers meowd.
All that glistens is not well
George Carmack was the first accredited with
finding gold in rabbit creek in your reference
to the klondike gold rush
which after a recession and high unemployment
tempted thousands of unemployed to go Yukon.The mounties were still about and certainly
your statement…" and the ability to punt your horse anonymously to significant sums "
would not have been tolerated in the late 1890’s,
and everyone had to gain lawful entry and verify
their identity.Canny Carmack did well, and there were many substantial finds, but for the vast majority among the forty or so thousands, some who travelled for a year to get there,
well they ended up with little but a few sand droppings.Max , well done a good post and points well made , I accept what you say without reservation , I still have my doubts about Lingfield and frankly it has soured me from even looking at the flat nowadays , as Drone said in one of his posts its a gradual disenchantment
Good luck in Southwell I always enjoyed going there
Black Sam , for goodness sake go and eat something sweet , your posts are becoming a little paranoid
As for Glen I fear the poor chap is having a traumatic afternoon watching the antics at the shame Pit
Happy Christmas to all
Ricky
Ricky,
Some systems work just as well on the Lingfield sand as they do elsewhere. The one to employ yesterday has just one simple rule :
In any top class race, the more enthusiastic Willie Muir is about his runner, the more you lay it.
Saphiras Fire, 5/2, "bucking and squealing, the best I’ve ever had her" says Muir. Result – unplaced.
Neither lizards nor rabble can dim the power of Willie!
AP
The BHA are useless at everything they touch….heard about the LONG WALK being put on Mid Week.
Let’s not forget that the Newbury card to which the Long Walk has been appended is already a decent one, with the Challow Hurdle and the Mandarin Chase (instantly reinvigorated by its conversion from handicap to graduation chase) also featuring. It’s not as if the Long Walk is going to be a Graded contest incongruouly supplanted into a humdrum gaff-track fixture.
Moving the race to a meeting with terrestrial coverage would have been nice, though, and given (a) sponsors to consider, (b) the guarantee of telly coverage (for now at least), and (c) it having held the race in 2005 during Ascot’s redevelopment, I’m not entirely sure why Chepstow didn’t get the nod. Any reasons behind the scenes that anyone knows about?
gc
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Some shocking self-interest induced coverage from the Channel 4 crew regarding the relocation of the Long Walk to Newbury, saying how it should be on terrestrial television. Well hold on, this meeting was on terrestrial television until only 2 or 3 years ago when Channel 4 slimmed down their coverage.
Haydock did their level best to get racing on but weather conditions eventually conspired against them. Don’t the hindsight smart*rses know it all?
My thoughts exactly. The most potentially significant pulses of lower temperature and snow reached the northwest some way ahead of schedule, if the Met Office forecasts from Thursday and Friday were to be believed.
Barney Clifford popped onto Timeform Radio yesterday afternoon, and pointed out that for the sake of a degree or so either way, Kirkland Tellwright had fallen lucklessly short of what would have been a fine piece of assertiveness, persistence and enterprise.
He reminded listeners that the received wisdom is covers have to come off two and a half to three hours prior to racing to give the turf time to recover from its incarceration. He found himself in exactly the same position at Mr Tellwright twice during 2009, in the face of not dissimilar forecasts, and conceded he could have faced the same public / press onslaught had there not been just enough warmth in both the ground and air temperature for the racing surface not to deteriorate in the interim.
In that regard I’m quite prepared to treat this incident as separate from some of Haydock’s other misadventures in recent times, e.g. where the racing surface on the Flat course has been described as one thing and ridden as something quite different. However, it’s precisely because of such occurrences that I wonder whether Mr Tellwright’s reputation has preceded him a little in some people’s eyes this time around? I’m not sure there would have been quite the outcry yesterday had those other mishaps not befallen him previously.
gc
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
The bloke said the course was raceable at 11am. The jockeys said it was unraceable at 11.30am
Go figure.
Alan , spot on , but it doesnt end there the whole scenario is just wild , basically any combination of Jock/trainer/owner can do what they please , because they just can walk away totally untouched
It finally dawned on me this year thaT I was wasting my time on this track , and them my problem was that the same combination of culprits turned up on the turf scene and the same stuff ensued , which soured me to the degree that I no Longer associate with any form of flat racing
I guess the BHA cant and wont do anything because they can do with another scandal like a hole in the head , meanwhile the missed breaks , the runs up the inside when its a minute slower , and mostly the late challenges that bring the beast to 4th place, meaning the place lay works a treat as well
So after many years of being mugged I gave up , and to be honest I am happy to leave it behind
ps a tip for you guys , specially on ATR , trainers inte
rviewed just before the race and talk up their horses , particularily on the aw , generally lose , and finish out of the 3 ……go for the pink button …….good luck if it works for you
cheers
Ricky
The bloke said the course was raceable at 11am. The jockeys said it was unraceable at 11.30am
Go figure.
It snowed in between.
Possibly Beethoven’s shock Dewhurst
win was an omen for you Ricky
You join Drone and Alan Potts
in truthing up the difficulties
of exchanges in your excellent postFair play to those that have built up
war chests from the easier earlier days.
and those that still defy the difficulties
and keep an edge in difficult margins.
but these will be the small minority.Everyone’s a winner
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