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  • #1614415
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    You call it respect if you want to – I call it something else.

    I can guess what you call it. Sorry that you are inconvenienced. Things will return to normal after 19th.

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    #1614417
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    “Don’t get me wrong, I understand why the BBC does it”

    Unless the BBC get inundated with complaints about one news item completely monopolising their coverage for weeks on end, they will assume they are meeting a seemingly insatiable public demand for all these programmes.

    I personally suspect there’s a silent majority who are, at best, completely indifferent to the Royal Family and already can’t wait for things to return to normal after the 19th, but I could be wrong.

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    #1614421
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    I’d put it at a fairly sizable silent minority. One thing you can be sure of is that all these vox pops are not reflective of overall public opinion but that particular imbalance will be conveniently ignored.

    However we live in a world where just a week ago a comedian taking the proverbial out of a politician on the BBC made front page news so they are stuck between a rock and a hard place to some extent.

    #1614423
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    I must say I am quite shocked at the wall to wall Queen coverage on the BBC- I would never have expected that. I suppose it has been well planned. People love all the tradition and the guardsman and such, irrespective of their endorsement or not. The Evening Standard covered the Queen on every page last week – no sport no finance – all Queen.

    Life at Buck palace and Windsor is highly regimented.I don’t think too much can be read into Phillip wanting to get away from that. When he retired he wanted to escape this regimentation so the Sandringham cottage was the most convenient. I presume during the lockdowns the Queen relaxed a lot of her duties and she only went through government papers which would have taken two hours in the morning. She would have cancelled her afternoon meetings and I think with her time freed up she wanted Phillip back with her at Windsor. Despite their ups and downs I think they had a great understanding of each other and they would have enjoyed each other’s company. He enjoyed a can of Double diamond every day at 5pm. Whether Phillip was happy that his wife worked until she dropped I don’t know.

    #1614428
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    He enjoyed a can of Double diamond every day at 5pm. Whether Phillip was happy that his wife worked until she dropped I don’t know.

    First, he went first, and that’s what being a Royal is all about “Duty”

    Second, thought they stopped brewing DD decades ago. But heard it can work wonders. :-)

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    #1614447
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    Depends when Philip gave up his mistresses …..he,s thought to have had 1 or 2 , I can’t imagine he enjoyed being in the shadow

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    #1614450
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    Chatting to a friend about this last night we reckoned the country falls into three categories:

    – the few million who read the Mail, Express, love and defer to the Royals, think everyone else should too and are passionately pro monarchy

    – a smaller number of fierce abolitionists

    – the silent majority in the middle who tbh aren’t much fussed about the Royal Family either way, aren’t interested in their lives, think they get too much easy public money, but can see they probably attract tourism.

    I suspect that silent majority get that it’s a big story for the first group, but feel this saturation coverage, especially on the BBC which is meant to reflect the consensus, is OTT and is just getting a bit trying by now.

    Roll on 20th September.

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    Agree with that, Chezza, but wouldn’t it be fair to say that there’s a degree of escapism built into this (frankly tedious) wall-to-wall coverage of the Queen’s passing?

    At least it means people are diverted from worrying about choosing between eating and heating.

    #1614457
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    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/11/republican-protesters-arrested-king-charles-proclamation-events

    I wonder what the free speech brigade in the right wing media think of this. They should be outraged shouldn’t they?

    #1614458
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    I think this topic has been hijacked by people who only care about themselves and see conspiracy everywhere. You’re all talking nonsense,but never let the truth stop your opinions.

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    #1614460
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    As I posted earlier, will the monarchy survive the Queen?

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    #1614461
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    I kind of feel you’re contradicting yourself a bit RR.

    On the one hand you say that the thread has been hijacked by the selfish and conspiracy theorists and then in the next breath you pose the question is the monarchy under threat?

    If the monarchy is as popular as you presumably suppose and this is just a handful of selfish people then why would it be under threat?

    Surely the reality is that the monarchy is nowhere near as popular as it used to be – even though the BBC don’t seem to be able to see that – and once the dust settles on all this, yes many people will question what is it for?

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    #1614462
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    The monarchy isn’t going to be abolished, Chezza. Get over it.

    #1614464
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    I can remember seeing the Queen at a distance when she came to my town during the jubilee in the seventies.
    Frankie Detorri has told a funny story about losing his pet dog in Newmarket.
    One of the Queen’s staff retrieved the dog and contacted the jockey to say it had been found.
    ” The Queen will be on the gallops in the morning. Why don’t you come down to so and so house and meet Her and collect your dog”.
    So Frankie told his ten year old daughter to put a nice dress on as they were going to collect Fido from the Queen, her daughter said get away Dad. “No really we are!” Detorri told a disbelieving Child.
    When they arrived she was sitting by the fire enjoying a gin and tonic. She had a lovely chat with little Detorri about school etc.

    Her patronage of racing has been key to the sport.
    Books of anecdotes about the Queen would fill a library.

    #1614465
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    Not really, Ian. I hear from other sources that a few people thought she should abdicate and let Charles (later William) reign. This though is a fantasy.

    Heard from non royalist (like yourself) about scrapping the monarchy, yet jubilee’s event and other events around the Queen how many pack the streets of London.

    How people will view the monarchy now Charles is on the throne is yet to be seen, after the death of his mother is finally done.

    My own opinion on the subject, I don’t consider myself a Royalist, but I do respect her as a person and close to tears when her death was announced.

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    #1614466
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    “The monarchy isn’t going to be abolished, Chezza. Get over it.”

    I didn’t actually say it was, Gladders, but I do think it’s less popular than it used to be and I think the departure of exceptionally dignified Monarch will only accelerate that.

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    #1614467
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    This is very much a honeymoon period for Charles. There will be no public discussion on the Monarchy’s position for a while. Clearly it’s not going to be discussed in the immediate aftermath of the Queen’s death and he’ll be allowed some time to put his stamp on the role.

    But come that conversation will, it already has here in our little corner of the Internet where we can discuss such things. It’s long odds against to be abolished any time soon but is reform of some kind possible? I don’t know the answer and it’s a while off if the answer is yes.

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