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  • #1338568
    Avatar photoZamorston
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    The thing I don’t get is how come the front few in the market aren’t going out?

    In the last couple of weeks this has started to develop into what’s looking a really competitive race…

    Finian’s Oscar, Bacardys, The New One all confirmed that this is their target and all shortened in the market…Yanworth talked of as a maybe for this race and shortened and La Bague Au Roi winning nicely and being talked about for this and shortening too…

    When are they gonna push Sam Spinner out a point or two so I can lump some more on?

    #1338570
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    Unfortunately markets don’t seem to operate like they used to. Its no longer a push – pull effect, they can shorten horses without needing to push out others, to a certain degree at least.

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    Lil Rockerfeller is 27/1 and has this season already beaten the horse that followed home Sam Spinner last time out – Lami Serge.

    Think he was 6lb lighter than Lami Serge on that occasion. But I take your point that he is great value and 27/1; he is a spring horse and 27/1 is tasty

    #1338815
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    Personally I would be amazed if age was the primary reason for uknowwhatimeanharry’s defeats this season.

    9 is not particularly old for national hunt horse when we’re seeing horses like thenewone and cue card doing very well into relative old age.

    in fact we’ve seen plenty of 9 year olds win the stayers in recent seasons and I prefer to simply see his disappointments this season as being a case of simply being out of form. Didn’t the stable also have American beaten in the Ladbrokes chase at newbury, perhaps they were just out of form at the time?

    Cast your mind back to last year and he was the stayer of last season. Has a great overall record at Cheltenham, a horse with a brilliant turn of foot where you’ll see the race set up for him by plenty in this who like to force the pace.

    It does look a decent race this year to my eyes so it could just be a case of the class of 2018 being a cut above the class of 2017, but if not then the horse is a huge price to my mind. Has there been any news out of the stable about his well being? slightly concerning that he’s not running in the cleeve.

    #1338816
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    If you are a gym regular, set your treadmill to 13mph and see how long you last. It is an astonishing speed to run at for so long, a superhuman speed. I’m convinced that top sports performers – human or animal – really are a class apart.

    or they’re just taking lots of drugs ;-)

    #1338818
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    Take all the drugs you want in the world and youll still be unable to run that speed for a length of time. Its something else that makes it possible.

    #1338827
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    Judge – Harry had a few ‘issues’ they found after his defeat LTO according to Harry Fry and they’re wanting to keep him fresh and well for Cheltenham.

    Fry said they have sorted the issues and that he’s back working well again IIRC, was on the Talksport programme Saturday morning.

    Fry was bang out of form when he was beat and Fry mentioned that also, so can definitely see your angle at him being overpriced.

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    that’s good news thanks :good:

    not normally one for forgiving horses as I’m a bit of a results slave but feel this fellow deserves another chance- and as you say there’s a logical reason for dismissing some of his defeats.

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    I have 7/1 on him antepost for this but I just can’t see it. He looked like a completely different horse to the one we saw cruising through his races this season last time out.

    Saying that the second behind beer goggles wasn’t a bad run I thought.

    I’m hopeful rather than confident tbh and won’t be tipping up unless he touches 16/1 on the day (which is extremely unlikely)

    #1338895
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    I still think Yanworth should be re-directed here. Thought the same last year and think the same again. And I’d think he would have a great chance too.

    #1338897
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    Think he will be if King isn’t a stubborn arse.

    I understand his prep isn’t ideal for the race, but his price in comparison to supasundaes is interesting to say the least. For all i don’t particularly like the horse, hes an awkward sod…

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    #1338899
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    Is it King or JP?

    #1338900
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    To be fair it will be JPs crowd who probably make the final decision, but King’s opinion as trainer will also play a part…he has already been stubborn this season with Yanworth…and told people basically to “shut it”.

    JP will have Jezki perhaps, and UKWIMH as well

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    #1338901
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    Yeah it seemed to me that UKWIMH dictated where Yanworth went last season. Assume BG had an influence on that too.

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    I have backed Let’s Dance 33/1 NRNB. Will probably go mares tho

    #1339018
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    Yeah, she didn’t stay today in Gowran; however the round was horrendous. Maybe she’d stay on better ground

    #1339019
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    Definitely didn’t stay but I think she would certainly have a better chance on better ground. Will probably go Mares anyway so il collect my stake back

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