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  • #1346755
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    I suppose it must be some horse to win this off a year against Supasundae.

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    Mullins does better with his horses after a long lay off than otherwise. Seems to be able to pump them up from a good way out.

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    Oh dear Oh dear, what was Joe Colliver thinking :unsure:
    This turned into a sprint from 2 out when they should have
    been well thinned out by then. Perhaps Penhill would have won
    anyway, but I think Joe will not like watching this tonight,
    no doubt with his head in his hands.

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    Well done to Steeplechasing. Some call, that.

    Daryl Jacob sums up my thoughts when he described the race as “The biggest balls of a race I’ve ever ridden in”.

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    Cheek of that photographer in the Palace hat though!

    #1346762
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    Mark, I was hoping The New One would win as I’d had a few quid at 65 and down, but looks like I got him wrong on the stamina front and fair play to those who doubted his stamina, especially Lost Soldier who was rightly emphatic about it.

    AS to Penhill, he certainly travelled like a plot horse! Backed him at 8s, fortunately BOG.

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    To be fair, I’m not sure TNO’s stamina ever got tested in a race ran that slowly. :wacko:

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    Mullins does better with his horses after a long lay off than otherwise. Seems to be able to pump them up from a good way out. 😉

    Yes GT, must be nothing to do with being a good trainer, having sympathy with his horses and knowing how much training and racing each will withstand, choosing excellent work riders and having good buyers and high spending owners and retaining good jockeys. Obviously he is just pumping them full of drugs. Did you see Penhill? Like a Belgian Blue bull right? Looks really pumped doesn’t he?

    I know it’s important to have an enquiring mind and no trainer is above having to abide by the rules but why assume he’s doping just because he wins? When Nicky Henderson wins a big race after a horse has had a layoff are you going to point the finger as well?

    Oh and putting a wink emoticon on your post doesn’t make it just cheeky bantz.

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    Ha! Mark, I just realised it was Joe Colliver you meant! Lad got it badly wrong, but he won’t be the first lower division jock to let the festival pressure get to him.

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    Well done Joe and Steve, a nice touch landed by you both :good:

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    Yes GT, must be nothing to do with being a good trainer, having sympathy with his horses and knowing how much training and racing each will withstand, choosing excellent work riders and having good buyers and high spending owners and retaining good jockeys. Obviously he is just pumping them full of drugs. Did you see Penhill? Like a Belgian Blue bull right? Looks really pumped doesn’t he?

    Did I say that?

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    You implied it.

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    When Nicky Henderson wins a big race after a horse has had a layoff are you going to point the finger as well?

    Does Henderson?
    As you point out “a big race”, when it happens now and again it’s believable that the trainer is not doing anything others aren’t. However, when the overall strike rate with those after long lay offs is apparently so good compared to other trainers, he must be doing something others aren’t. Something totally legal of course. :yes:

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    Sam Spinner is clearly on the up and Supasundae defeated Faugheen but Yanworth looks a bit of a rogue to me.

    I’ll give Penhill the chance to finish best and win this one.

    Well that was a nice pick me up after Terrefort and I was always hopeful despite Penhill being at the back most of the way. In the end it was closer than I had felt at one stage and the jockey quipped that he probably went two furlongs early.

    I had said on another thread that The New One would be likely to fall between two stools and despite the pelters I took from The New One fans,I maintain that the horse just isn’t quite top notch. His win from Ch’Tibello just doesn’t look great shakes now and that wasn’t the first time The New One has won a small field affair. He’ll go down as good but, for me at least, not a great. You can almost set your watch that he gets beat in bigger fields when he is any sort of decent price.

    Yanworth is one I passed on after he was beaten by Yorkhill at Cheltenham. Both horses have generally struggled in their attempts to hit the top since, with Yorkhill’s JLT win the only ray of sunshine on the journey.

    Delighted with Penhill because he wasn’t nap material by any means. He was just a nice price and I liked the horses he has beaten on his way here. He finished ahead of Presenting Percy, Monalee and Al Boum Photo when second at Punchestown last year and they would have been 1-2-3 in the RSA but for a fall. Ironically,the winner of that Punchestown race, Champagne Classic, has not been seen since. Penhill had also beaten Monalee and today’s third Wholestone in last year’s Albert Bartlett and had Festival form in the bag.

    Sam Spinner was skinny enough in the end at 9/4 but I am not sure he would have won anyway. Penhill had come wide travelling ominously well and probably would have taken the Fav anyway.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Forgot to say WD Joe and Steve. I was a bit dubious about whether he would be tough enough so fair play to you. :good:

    #1346790
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    Yes, well done Steve and Joe and other Penhills.

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    Nice one, Steve

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