November 25, 2017 at 18:26 #1328664
Sam Spinner is certainly a unique one. I think I’d need to see him a few more times and see some more progress first. It would be good to see him repeat that performance outside of a handicap. Big margin wins when carrying a light weight on heavy ground can often be misleading. Definitely one to watch though.November 25, 2017 at 18:37 #1328671
Very happy with that today, had Sam Spinner ante-post 11’s, as that was a fine performance at Chepstow.
Got him for Cheltenham at 200’s to 240’s, and laid off after the race at 16.5’s to go nice and green. Won’t go mad on this race now, but very happy with that.
I’m not convinced he’ll progress that far, but chuffed to bits anyway.November 25, 2017 at 19:39 #1328690hamParticipant
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Good job vtc! Nothing better than having a green book this far out!November 25, 2017 at 19:53 #1328696
Thanks Ham, very happy.
Conscious effort to cut down on the “books” this year, as although everything went right last year, it ain’t always that easy, and I won’t add much more now, if anything to this race. Good position though,and I’ll lay half of what I have on Sam, over the coming weeks, so I’ll make sure it pays it way.November 25, 2017 at 19:56 #1328697SteeplechasingParticipant
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Nice one, Bobby. SS looks most progressive
Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience, then onlookers might not be able to tell the difference. https://lazybet.com/November 25, 2017 at 20:08 #1328699
Yeah Joe, spotted him last year, as he was one of the better ones from one of my systems, and that Chepstow run confirmed that. Big ask to progress to winning this, but happy enough tonight anyway.November 26, 2017 at 16:51 #1328889gmanParticipant
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Can not help but think Thistlecrack is value at 14/1 at the moment. Obviously returning over hurdles which he didn’t do last year. Can see a couple
1)Beats ykwimh and given his problems and the fact he’s just beaten one of the favourites they choose to stay over hurdles.
2)Runs well or beats ykwimh and declared all systems go for king George. I think KG is much stronger race this year as it stands and can’t see him winning. At this point after losing the KG would they really then expect him to win a gold cup. Could easily see him reverting to hurdles.
3) runs well next week, wins king George and gold cup and I get back in my box.
Anyway new member so be nice.November 26, 2017 at 23:05 #1328959
That’s an interesting thought Gman. It hadn’t occurred to me that Thistlecrack might revert to hurdles on a permanent basis and I can see the logic. His jumping was edge of the seat stuff last season often taking off too early and just making it to the other side. As a backer it would have driven me bonkers.
If he did and he retains that same engine, which I can’t see why he wouldn’t, then that would really shake up the market. I’m no veterinary expert but my understanding is tendon injuries are much more difficult to come back from unaffected so I think I would need to see some evidence of his recovery before wading in but if he does revert to hurdles then 14-1 would be a massive price.November 26, 2017 at 23:40 #1328970
Welcome to TRF GmanDecember 7, 2017 at 21:55 #1330876hamParticipant
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Funny market as of now and the front two are definitely beatable at this stage anyway.
lil rockerfeller 25s & 20s
Lami serge 19s
The new one 50sDecember 8, 2017 at 00:40 #1330903
I totally agree Ham, it’s a very odd market. I’m staying right where I am with a bet on L’Ami Serge. I’ve never been totally convinced by unowhatimeanharry neither did I buy Harry Fry’s post Stayers Hurdle analysis that the horse ran ‘flat’, that ubiquitous phrase rolled out by a trainer when his fancied runner loses.
I’m not sure what Lil Rockerfeller has done wrong to be + 20-1. That seems a good alternative bet to me. It would be great to see the New One win and whilst my heart would love to see it my head says otherwise. I think he missed his opportunity which was last year.
Perhaps this is the year in which the baton is passed to an up and coming younger horse. Good luck with your bets, particularly L’Ami Serge.December 8, 2017 at 08:01 #1330923atthepostParticipant
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Nichols Canyon at 7/1 is very fair in what is a weak division. Apples Jade could win this but it is now likely she will run in the Mares.
NC wasn’t even 100% right last year and still won. He’s a multiple grade 1 winner and still relatively young for what he has achieved. Most under rated horse in training FACT.
Have lumped on at 7s. Good luck allDecember 17, 2017 at 06:32 #1332573SteeplechasingParticipant
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TNO running out of his skin this season . Twister says he goes for this now and I hope he stands by it. 25/1 is about 15 points too high and must be taken.
Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience, then onlookers might not be able to tell the difference. https://lazybet.com/December 17, 2017 at 14:07 #1332633CharlesOlneyParticipant
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With connections eyeing up the Stayers do we think we’ll see The New One in the Cleeve or will they go the usual route with him taking in the Relkeel and the Champion trial at Haydock?
I think they have to have a go at the trip at least once and not leave it to chance come the big day.December 17, 2017 at 14:11 #1332635Mike007Participant
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All those who fancy TNO for the stayers need to look at this stat.
All of the last 30 winners were aged 9 or younger.
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