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I maintain it’s not a great race.
Chilean @ 16/1
For what’s it’s worth, a friend of my FIL visits a lot of yards and has given my FIL some good tips over the years. Word from the yard is that they really, really like Chilean. I’ve never been one for tips like this, but make of it what you will.
My main point is that the Galileo’s are the ones who normally make the big improvement.
Of the Scat Daddy’s you list Murillo got beaten next time and disappeared. Sioux Nation was disappointing in the Middle Park. Mendelssohn was suspiciously upgraded for his Dewhurst effort, which we should learn a lot about this weekend. Dali has looked a bust already.
You may be correct and Seahenge could be the next big thing. However, bookmakers odds, trends and thirty odd years of my own observations say it won’t happen. I can only report my own thoughts and feelings. The results will tell the reality in the future.
We shall see in due course.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Really looking forward to this race tomorrow and lots of different views and angles on who will win, but I haven’t changed my mind and will be cheering Roaring Lion home, I don’t think we’ll be seeing him running green as he has done in his last two races, this time I hope he’s going to be in control and using all the power that he possesses to gain victory from Saxon Warrior and Seahenge, 1,2,3 … a small trifecta on the cards..
well that’s what I’m hoping for.
As much as I would love to see Chilean, a stablemate of Eminent, win this I feel that unless he has improved in leaps and bounds since his last race he will struggle as the 2nd horse Learn By Heart, 3rd home Dee Ex Bee and 4th placed Dark Acclaim have not progressed.
Good luck everyone for the last hurrah of the flat season
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...As you guys know by now I am not a favourite backer but had to back this at 6/4. IMO it will start odds on!!
I have had a small saver each way on Chilean at 16/1 but I think this Saxon warrior may be a SERIOUS horse!The bookmaker’s odds don’t say Seahenge ‘won’t happen’ SC. They say there’s a (more or less) 6 or 7% chance that it WILL.
Plumped for Verbal Dexterity @ 4’s
Also a couple of pounds E/W @ 130.0 Coat of Arms
Should of won a G2 in Ireland this year and if you forgive his last run, arguably has better form than quite a few of these.
The bookmaker’s odds don’t say Seahenge ‘won’t happen’ SC. They say there’s a (more or less) 6 or 7% chance that it WILL.
That is solely for today’s race Corm. I stated that it was the chance of “Being the next big thing” ie Becoming the horse that Churchill was supposed to be.
Seahenge must be huge odds to do better than winning TWO 2000 Guineas next year and going on to be one of Aidan’s best ever. It probably wouldn’t amount to 1% likelihood. Saxon Warrior is 66/1 to win Guineas and Derby after all.
Getting back to just the Racing Post Trophy and Verbal Dexterity is best backed this morning. That is another worry for Seahenge surely.
I am just putting my opinions out there to perhaps help other readers, it’s not trying to dampen anyone’s fire.
I said earlier in the thread that 9/4 for The Pentagon was nonsense value and BET365 are now on 9/1 with almost everyone else going the same now. I also said Loxley was rank value at 10/1 and I gave 33/1 myself. The horse is generally 33/1 now.
Like I say, just offering my opinion and not out to rain on anyone’s parade. We all get it wrong plenty of times and that’s why it is important to maximise value.
I am happy to have pointed out the bad value here and some of the betting firms were miles off with their original books.
Good luck whatever you have backed.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Bolger doesn’t seem in the best of form.
As for Seahenge, the idea that he’s going to do better than Churchill is preposterous of course. I actually think it proves my point about horses who finish fast being overrated. Everytime Seahenge has won he’s come with a rattling late run- punters love that, as it adds to the thrill of a winner, and it also looks more visually impressive. But if it beats a horse by half a length it’s the same whether it’s come from behind or been up there all the way.
Depends on the pace of the race Judge, the Champagne he seemed to do it well as came from the back in a race that favoured those in front although I take the point as a good one in general.
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Saxon warrior for the win, 5/2 the other day
Roaring lion to come for 2nd had a little e/w at 7/1
Played the f/c
Saxon warrior will be a guineas horse, forget the derby
pentagon will be the strong finisher for the derby Happy with that
Thought the money was done there.
Roaring lion looked like he must have traded long odds on inrunning.
Saxon Warrior won so well done Steve
as you called this boy from a long time ago.However I don’t think that looked like the guineas winner. A guineas winner would not have been outpaced like that over a mile. Like his half sister september, all he did was stay on. The derby is full steam ahead.
And well done O’Brien, what a remarkable trainer you are. The Borg can sleep well tonight
Saxon warrior for the win, 5/2 the other day
Roaring lion to come for 2nd had a little e/w at 7/1
Played the f/c
Saxon warrior will be a guineas horse, forget the derby
pentagon will be the strong finisher for the derby Happy with that
Well done
Seahenge didn’t pick up at all. I think and hoped he would be much better than that, but I might be wrong.
Thought the money was done there.
Roaring lion looked like he must have traded long odds on inrunning.
Saxon Warrior won so well done Steve
as you called this boy from a long time ago.However I don’t think that looked like the guineas winner. A guineas winner would not have been outpaced like that over a mile. Like his half sister september, all he did was stay on. The derby is full steam ahead.
And well done O’Brien, what a remarkable trainer you are. The Borg can sleep well tonight 😉
Had Roaring Lion held on, I think the result might have been reversed considering the bump he gave Saxon Warrior.
Thought the money was done there.
Roaring lion looked like he must have traded long odds on inrunning.
Saxon Warrior won so well done Steve
as you called this boy from a long time ago.However I don’t think that looked like the guineas winner. A guineas winner would not have been outpaced like that over a mile. Like his half sister september, all he did was stay on. The derby is full steam ahead.
And well done O’Brien, what a remarkable trainer you are. The Borg can sleep well tonight 😉
Had Roaring Lion held on, I think the result might have been reversed considering the bump he gave Saxon Warrior.
Yes I totally agree but when he first went past, I thought he might go clear and win by 2-3 lengths so well was Roaring Lion travelling.
I think a large part of O’Briens success is how well his horses stay and you saw it there, that his horse won through stamina. First group one win in this country for Deep Impact as well.
Jac
pentagon will be the strong finisher for the derby 
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