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I’d love to see Enable run in this, but I’m not quite convinced she’ll turn up. This looks like a great time to take advantage of Highland Reel 9/4.
If Enable runs then imo Highland Reel is likely to drift further.
If both Enable and Highland Reel run then you’re likely to get better than 20/1 Desert Encounter.
Value Is EverythingJudged from what JohnnyG said on ATR, Enable will run.
I missed that Ginger, what was it that he said?
Can’t be word for word, but Enable is an intended runner, including if it remains soft. Sire Nathaniel acted well on soft (progeny seem to like it too). Dam’s sire Saddler’s Wells progeny also usually go well on it.
It was on Racing News if you want to watch it at 1:00pm.
Value Is EverythingI’d love to see Enable run in this, but I’m not quite convinced she’ll turn up. This looks like a great time to take advantage of Highland Reel 9/4.
If Enable runs then imo Highland Reel is likely to drift further.
If both Enable and Highland Reel run then you’re likely to get better than 20/1 Desert Encounter.
Of course Gingertipster, that is why I said I’m not convinced Enable will turn up.
Realise that, Voleur; my point wasn’t aimed at you.
You’ve said since that original statement that you’d missed Johnny G’s comments; my post was aimed at other TRFers thinking of backing them.
Value Is EverythingI’ve taken the 2/1 Enable.
My two Arc bets now first and second favourites for the King George.
Fingers crossed.Value Is EverythingThis race has really fallen in prestige; I remember in the 70s it was a real highlight, and all the big names would turn up
This race has really fallen in prestige; I remember in the 70s it was a real highlight, and all the big names would turn up
Of those not already retired or under-a-cloud, you’ve got timeform’s top four older horse mile and a half horses – Idaho, Jack Hobbs, Highland Reel and Ulysees (not necessarily in that order) and the top rated three year old mile and a half horse – Enable… And indeed others rated only a pound below the lowest rated of them. What “big names” are missing from this year’s entries, befair?
I can see Ulysees pulling out, but only due to the ground which would happen any year.
French horses tend to miss the middle season these days. So the only horses missing that I can think of are what would be the O’Brien and Gosden third strings Capri and Cracksman who are the two ante-post favourites for the Voltigeur.
Value Is EverythingNever really been impressed by highland reel.
think Enable will make them all go but 6-4 is hardly great value, still a winners a winner
I have backed Jack Hobbs antepost for this but I think Enable will win this and goes off odds on if she runs.
Current going is soft, good-soft in places on the round course and with a middling forecast you’d be brave to say that Highland Reel will run and Ulysses too for that matter, I can see them being held back for the Juddmonte International with Coolmore relying on Idaho and Johannes Vermeer.
Personally I’d love Permian to run in this. He’s shown he can handle give in the ground in the Dante and that he can perform at the course, he’s 20/1 at the moment but if he’s declared and Highland Reel isn’t then you’d be looking at a third of those odds.
Excellent point, Dr. Olney.
I expect they’d run Idaho no matter what though. I get the impression he isn’t really rated by the lads so they won’t mind letting him take his chance even if conditions aren’t ideal.
Hi GT what is your current tissue for the race?
Hi Mtoto,
Haven’t done a full 100% book tissue as (other than Jack Hobbs) it is difficult to know which Sheikh Mo (and son) horses are going to turn up. However, even with Highlnd Reel in the field I’d estimate Enable’s chance at this point in time as 38 to 40% (13/8 to 6/4). So if you can get 15/8 with Ladbrokes or on the machine I’d advise to take it. If not, @ 7/4 or shorter I think it’s wise to wait.Difficult when the amount of rain forecast is up in the air! Highland Reel’s drift is now a little worrying, 3/1 is understandable, but 4/1 on the machine? I wouldn’t be surprised to see him miss the race if going is on the soft side of good; particularly on soft or heavy. Idaho seems closer to his brother in the market than form suggests he should be, but he’s the one certain to act on soft. Even so, Idaho’s current price looks too short to me. So – as the clerk of he course says – a lot depends on how much rain Ascot gets on Wednesday. If tipping down then on soft or heavy (without Highland Reel) most of the other horses current odds will look big by the off. If they get only the 3mm (that’s the lowest side of the forecast) then 4/1 Highland Reel will look a good bet by off time. If “heavy” there’s even a danger Enable will come out!
If there is another value bet then it’s Jack Hobbs. I put a saver in to Betfair @ 7/1 and then thought better of it. However, now down to 6/1 best and beginning to wish I had left it on there. He didn’t look right in the Prince Of Wales, slowly away, didn’t settle and seemingly not wanting to let himself down on the firm surface. May be there’s a bit of temperament there these days, but there’s a good chance softer conditions suit him now – after an op’. If back to form even his stable companion would be in danger. I’ll probably wait to have my saver.
Hope they run Permian. I don’t think he’s good enough, but would ensure a good pace – unlike Maverick Wave who can be left alone in front.
Value Is EverythingNo mention on here yet of Argentinian champion Sixties Song.
You can see him bolt up in a Group 1 on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b-Ozo3PgFI
The worry is that he was defeated on soft ground but this is a big plus for Ascot and even if none of us fancy his chances it’s nice to see far-afield challengers over here.
Weather forecast improving all the time, ground unlikely to be any worse than good.
Really? It looks to be worsening from what I can see.
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