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- July 23, 2017 at 14:50 #1311175
Amazed no thread on this yet.
Possibly because Highland Reel is seen as the obvious winner?
Or will Enable run?
Or will Jack Hobbs come back to form on a softer surface?
Value Is EverythingJuly 23, 2017 at 14:59 #1311176If it comes up on the soft side of good can see Ulysses missing the race, given his action.
Value Is EverythingJuly 23, 2017 at 17:46 #1311185I did ‘Highland reel’ for this at 10/1 last year and he never looked in danger Ginge…this year I have his full brother Idaho at the same price and I’m hoping lightning strikes twice…Of course I had him at 16/1 for last years St leger and took Gary ‘I came 2nd in the 10 to follow comp’GDC to Doncaster to celebrate just another Ante-Post coup from yours truly when Seamie Heffernen incredibly fell off…I haven’t lived that one down yet!Come on Idaho.
July 23, 2017 at 18:09 #1311189I’ve not given up hope on Frontiersman, providing the going is not soft. Temperamental but has bags of potential. You don’t want to see him throw his races away by drifting violently but if he stays straight he wins if not you have to make do with the place money.
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July 23, 2017 at 18:48 #1311190Well the markets are speaking…
Enable now 2/1.
July 23, 2017 at 19:04 #1311194I’m on Hawkbill virtually every time he runs including that win at Newmarket last time at 7s.
I still think he’s godolphins best middle distance horse including jack Hobbs and frontiersman. This isn’t an antepost race for me but he’s 16s with skybet which is tempting.
I’ll wait til the declarations though.
Would love to see enable run though. For the good of the race.
July 24, 2017 at 00:55 #1311221I’m on Hawkbill virtually every time he runs including that win at Newmarket last time at 7s.
I still think he’s godolphins best middle distance horse including jack Hobbs and frontiersman. This isn’t an antepost race for me but he’s 16s with skybet which is tempting.
I’ll wait til the declarations though.
Would love to see enable run though. For the good of the race.
Wise to wait MOM.
I think the only reason Hawkbill is as big as 16/1 is his chance of actually turning up being included in the price.
I’d want 4/1 for him even running on Saturday, but if he does will imo be around 10/1 on the day.Value Is EverythingJuly 24, 2017 at 01:02 #1311222Well the markets are speaking…
Enable now 2/1.
If Enable turns up she should start favourite.
Value Is EverythingJuly 24, 2017 at 01:10 #1311223I’m on Hawkbill virtually every time he runs including that win at Newmarket last time at 7s.
I still think he’s godolphins best middle distance horse including jack Hobbs and frontiersman. This isn’t an antepost race for me but he’s 16s with skybet which is tempting.
I’ll wait til the declarations though.
Would love to see enable run though. For the good of the race.
Wise to wait MOM.
I think the only reason Hawkbill is as big as 16/1 is his chance of actually turning up being included in the price.
I’d want 4/1 for him even running on Saturday, but if he does will imo be around 10/1 on the day.Indeed.
He wasn’t scheduled to run in either of his last two starts but did anyway (Epsom and Newmarket) so I’d always wait til the decs with him as connections seem unsure what to do with him.
July 24, 2017 at 08:10 #1311230A nightmare race to be backing in now for backers with all the rain and uncertainty

Not sure that Highland Reel will turn up at all if there is any soft in the going. He has the option of Arlington in a couple of weeks ( Arlington Million )
Not sure Gosden will run his two best against each other either when Enable has the Yorkshire Oaks waiting. She will certainly have her hardest races to date here and at York.
Again, the weather holds the key to Ulysses. Stoute said after Goodwood last year ” With the acceleration he shows you don’t want to run him on bad ground ” and Atzeni who rode him ” I don’t think he enjoyed the good to soft ground at Epsom. He’s a very good-moving horse ”
On Wings of Desire @ 25’s & Jack Hobbs @ 10’s
I cannot see Wings of Desire winning after his Newmarket run. A big leap of faith here in Jack Hobbs to show what he really can do.
July 24, 2017 at 08:14 #1311231My favourite day of the year to go racing, and although this race has lot some of it’s sparkle in recent times I still look forward to it. I have bet Benbatl at 20-1 and I would love to see him given a chance here though I have not caught connections plans for him
July 24, 2017 at 10:25 #1311243Enable = intended runner!
July 24, 2017 at 11:47 #1311247Enable = intended runner!
Based on what they’re saying this morning? I’m not sure I would be that confident.
July 24, 2017 at 11:52 #1311248I’ve backed Jack Hobbs each-way at 10/1.
Hoping the rain keeps up to scupper Highland Reel and that Gosden realises he has the winner in his stable already so has no need to throw Enable in the deep end yet and holds her back for York.
July 24, 2017 at 12:25 #1311257Judged from what JohnnyG said on ATR, Enable will run.
Value Is EverythingJuly 24, 2017 at 12:25 #1311258Desert Encounter has been backed off the board, 50/1 into 20/1. A little bit annoying that I missed the boat but I’m going to get in on the act. He’s obviously a really progressive type, he put in a tremendous performance when 3rd to Ulysses in the Eclipse, which is over a trip shorter than optimum. He was significantly outpaced in the early stages by the quicker 10f horses, but he stayed on well running strongly to the line. A bit of cut in the ground would go a long way.
I’d love to see Enable run in this, but I’m not quite convinced she’ll turn up. This looks like a great time to take advantage of Highland Reel 9/4.
July 24, 2017 at 12:30 #1311259Judged from what JohnnyG said on ATR, Enable will run.
I missed that Ginger, what was it that he said?
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