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    Avatar photoMoyenneCorniche
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    When you say ABP ran way below form in last years GC, it just doesn’t follow to then go on to say you are not commenting on his previous runs.

    Surely you have to make an assessment of his previous runs if you are going to claim he ran below form last year?

    Not having a dig and it is all about opinions but it doesn’t make much sense.

    #1584328
    FinalFurlong91
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    “indo had 4 runs in the low to mid 160s then magically found another 11lbs to win the gc”

    Is it unlikely if he’d done it the two previous years?

    He jumped and travelled notably better in the gold cup than he had previously that season horse just improves for the spring and the track on all known evidence?

    Was ABP rating of 175 ever accurate? Debatable imo

    #1584333
    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    Of the front three, A Plus Tard is the one I like least.

    His only win at Cheltenham was in the defunct novices handicap, in which he was chucked in.

    Since then, he has been beaten in the Ryanair (when I think he started favourite) and the Gold Cup. He did not travel or jump particularly well in either race, which makes me question if the track really suits him.

    I have no doubt an in form Minella Indo would beat him and I see no reason why he should reverse form with Galvin.

    He was flattered by his Haydock win.

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    I reckon last year’s race has left is mark on Minella , was worried by stable form but it’s been better over last week , I can’t see APT beating Galvin , a lot of horses don’t win another race after a GC never mind another GC

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    #1584379
    ham
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    When im saying im not commenting on his previous GC wins it doesnt mean im defending them, but in essence, he has ran to 170-173ish atleast once since his first GC win, i dont see any evidence from APT/INDO that they have ever done that, the only time they supposedly did was in the GC, its highly unlikely they just off one run become that,, they certainly havent ran anywhere near it this season, which strongly suggests that for whatever reason ABP didnt run to his “best” form, which there is plenty of justifiable reasons for

    The whole point in me bringing that up wasnt because im suggesting abp will win, although i actually think theres a better than double digit price chance that he will, who i thought will win is in the first few pages of this thread, it was just to point out “why” the race was so open to whoever it was that said it lol

    If indo comes out and wins (he wont, or apt) then ill happily take it that theres a good chance ABP did run to 169 last season and they did run to 170+, because its the gold cup they through these 170 ratings around for fun

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    Tizaaards Cider
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    Royal Pagaille looks the overlooked one in the field at the prices for me. Especially now it’s looking more likely than not to be pretty soft heading into race week.

    Has shown improved form since last season and even though beaten a fairly long way by Apt at Haydock he’s improved from that and was apparently injured at some point during the race as well.

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    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    I’ll join you Autumnal with Franco De Port. Thought he ran a good race in The Thyestes, and was in a position to add another, so thought him worth a go at the price. Really liked him in the build up to Gowran, and he didn’t disappoint me at all.

    Conflated 770’s Laid 11.5’s
    Franco De Port 180’s
    Galvin 33’s Laid 6.2’s
    Royal Pagaille 33’s NRNB

    #1585197
    algarvearry
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    I am going through a phase of left field thinking, bear with.
    Following previous festival form and with a year in hand over most I would have Allaho as the most likely GC winner. There seems never to have been any consideration of running him despite competitive finishes in the AB novice hurdle, RSA novice chase and winning the Ryanair. What ingredient is missing?
    Thinking this was always going to be hypothetical, ABP is now under a cloud after latest, maybe Willie might have a rejig. Tornado Flyer going down to Ryanair?

    #1585204
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Franco was 30 lengths behind Galvin in Irish GC , how is he going to reverse that ? , he,ll surely be running for place money in the Ryanair at best

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    #1585209
    Avatar photovikingflagship
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    Elliot wants Conflated to race in the Gold cup, he’ll have words with you know who and mayne argue but he says he be better suited in Gold cup

    VF x

    #1585481
    Tizaaards Cider
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    The owner of aye right has said on RTV that they’re going for the big one.

    Utter madness.

    #1586245
    Avatar photoKris
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    Al Boum Photo 10-1, and Minella Indo 5-1 for me

    #1588335
    Avatar photoDBRDBR
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    No ante post picks for me this year. Just not a runner who really stands out at a nice price.

    Not to keen on Minella Indo after this season, really needs to bounce back. I always thought of Galvin as a horse for good ground and I just doubt if he really has that grade 1-class. I like A Plus Tard though, just like last year he is my favourite. A few small mistakes in his last years edition cost him the win. This season he was impressive at Haydock, but hit the front too soon at Leopardstown.

    I don’t think the English are good enough. Protektorat won impressive, but that was against Native River who was close to retirement. Chantry House doesn’t travel anyway near enough to have a chance and Royale Pagaille is a likeable horse, but not a grade 1 horse I think.

    Can’t have Asterion Forlonge at a lefthanded track. The other two Mullins horses are in with a chance. Al Boum Photo obviously has proved his class here before. If he can get close to that level again he surely must be in the mix again. Tornado Flyer is the biggest unkwown, got to have a little saver on him as well.

    A Plus Tard 7/2

    Savers on
    Al Boum Photo 12/1
    Tornado Flyer 14/1

    #1588337
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    I’m on Tornado Flyer 200/1 King George/Gold Cup double.
    Would love him on Chantry House to win but believe A Plus Tard and Galvin could be the two fighting it out

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    #1588340
    Moody Man
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    With the form she’s in, Venetia’s Royal Pagaille looks tempting each way. Tend to favour classy plodders over specialist 3 milers when it’s soft.

    #1588342
    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    Satisfied with 10/1 against Minella Indo and 16/1 against Al Boum Photo. Both been there and done it and should run well.

    Added Galvin. He looks like the horse on an upward curve and the Gold Cup is usually won by a strong stayer.

    I am not sure A Plus Tard acts that well on the track or stays strongly enough.

    #1588379
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    APT in soft ground is surely the lay ,he couldn’t get home last year in better , Galvin isn’t going to get a better chance to win this

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